so engineer is in a upcoming update????
(01-17-2010, 05:17 PM)////AUD Wrote: [ -> ]so engineer is in a upcoming update????
That's the only Class that has yet to receive an update soooooo yeah
Also I got a Camera Beard
(Which is the most common Cosmetic item since they made it into a misc item)
there's literally nothing to update for the engineer
(01-17-2010, 05:37 PM)Xander Crews Wrote: [ -> ]there's literally nothing to update for the engineer
They could give him better/more useful things to build.
Dont ask me what, im just throwing it out there.
what is more useful than a Win-the-Game Gun (sentry)
(01-17-2010, 05:37 PM)Xander Crews Wrote: [ -> ]there's literally nothing to update for the engineer
Oh ho I beg to differ
how about a Wrench that can build objects 50-75% faster but the downside will be that upgrading buildings is slower like 5-10 metal points per hit.
Super Shotgun - Fires more bullets (and thus doing more damage) than the normal Shotgun but Halfs the reserve ammo and maybe slower rate of fire.
An item that detects cloaked Spies and/or fully ubercharged Medics, a beeping sound will alert depending how close they are, however he has to have it out in order to use it this also replaces the Pistol.
the first one is kinda lame
the Scout already has the super shotgun
and the third one is just broken as heck
(01-17-2010, 05:55 PM)Xander Crews Wrote: [ -> ]the first one is kinda lame
the Scout already has the super shotgun
You've never done offensive engineering have you?
Because offensive engineer is way more fun than defensive engineer.
The problem with offensive engineering at this state is getting all your shit up before some bloody bloke runs at your gear and ruin the shit out of it, so who gives a shit if I can't upgrade it faster, I just want my stuff up faster.
Also the Super Shotgun wouldn't do that Knockback bullshit that the FaN can do.
(01-17-2010, 05:55 PM)Xander Crews Wrote: [ -> ]and the third one is just broken as heck
Every class has a weakness that cannot be countered well, Items are made to counter that weakness with of course a setback, Pyros before the update had trouble dealing with Soldiers and Demos so they gave him the ability to airblast, Heavies always are in need of a Medic and Medics are not always there for them and thus he got a Sandvich, Snipers always get backstabed by Spies so they get Razorback and Jarate, Most people can see though spies' desguise and he want to stay cloaked forever standing there, Cloak and Dagger. Engineers always get their shit ruined by an Ubercharged player and he has no idea it was coming if their own team didn't warn them.
(01-17-2010, 05:55 PM)Xander Crews Wrote: [ -> ]the first one is kinda lame
reference: see the PDQ
also that third idea is just a big no from me
The Spy has enough to worry about trying to sneak through a base. Attacking an engy set-up is difficult enough as it is, and perfect balance is at play here: the better player will be the one to come out on top of a Spy/Engy scuffle (provided a rogue pyro/demoman doesn't come in to help the situation). The Engineer shouldn't get anything that would give him an advantage over the Spy.
If Valve should give the Engineer an item that makes him better against a certain class, it should be something geared against Demomen. Like something that shorts out explosives, giving the Demoman inability to spray and pray and actually give him a bigger challenge against a sentry set-up.
oh also guaranteed that the shotgun replacement will use metal reserves. calling it now.
engie is one of my most played classes so whatever it is, it better own
(01-17-2010, 06:36 PM)oB2Ko Mario Wrote: [ -> ]The Engineer shouldn't get anything that would give him an advantage over the Spy.
If Valve should give the Engineer an item that makes him better against a certain class, it should be something geared against Demomen.
shouldn't get anything that would give him an advantage over the Spy.
should get anything geared against Demomen.
so what you're basically saying he shouldn't get something against that class but he should get something against this class
But still he should get something against uberchaged Medic because that is the biggest threat to all Engineers
(01-17-2010, 06:56 PM)Rob Wrote: [ -> ] (01-17-2010, 06:36 PM)oB2Ko Mario Wrote: [ -> ]The Engineer shouldn't get anything that would give him an advantage over the Spy.
If Valve should give the Engineer an item that makes him better against a certain class, it should be something geared against Demomen.
shouldn't get anything that would give him an advantage over the Spy.
should get anything geared against Demomen.
so what you're basically saying he shouldn't get something against that class but he should get something against this class
uhhhh
yeah
because the Spy vs Engineer is pretty much the most balanced class match-up in the game. Your only excuse to losing to a Spy one-on-one is because he was more competent than you were.
The Demoman, on the other hand, can singlehandedly crush a set-up by spamming grenades over a wall and without any room for the Engineer to fight back.
(01-17-2010, 06:56 PM)Rob Wrote: [ -> ]But still he should get something against uberchaged Medic because that is the biggest threat to all Engineers
Well, this depends on the uber
for the most part, a sentry can outgun an uber if you stay back and heal it. The knockback should be enough to prevent a full-on rush.
provided, that is, that you're not around a corner and a Pyro can burn you and your sentry up without your sentry picking up the Pyro.
If it's an ubered demo, you're screwed either way.