(09-11-2011, 04:23 PM)Goemar Wrote: [ -> ]People expect a game such as this to still be relevant to play after 9 months.
It still is.
(09-11-2011, 04:23 PM)Goemar Wrote: [ -> ]A lack of a support for such a title is just poor.
While there has been a lack of support, quite a bit of it (unless revealed otherwise) was a result of the tsunami.
(09-11-2011, 04:23 PM)Goemar Wrote: [ -> ]But what about those who never want to play as those new characters? A rebalance + new moves upgrade is hardly worth $40 to them.
Don't buy it.
(09-11-2011, 04:23 PM)Goemar Wrote: [ -> ]And in all seriousness how many of these new characters do you think people will seriously put time into? 2? 3?
Most people that play fighting games will try every character at least once-- sometimes twice. As the game gets older and evolves, new secrets and gameplay strategies are found that cause players to want to rotate the characters they are using. It's very unlikely that your day one MvC3 team is the same as your current team unless you're a very casual player, or you managed to click with your team. And even then, something about your team and gameplay style has changed.
(09-11-2011, 04:23 PM)Goemar Wrote: [ -> ]For the people who brought the game the first time around they've spent $60+$40. $100 on this game. Instead of just the one time purchase.
Yes, and it sucks. Here is where I will agree with you;
Marvel vs Capcom 3 was sold as a blatantly incomplete game. It is missing many core features that should have been included in the first place. People have a right to be upset about that part. I am even bothered about it myself, but it is not such a big deal that Capcom should be sent to a firing squad.
(09-11-2011, 04:23 PM)Goemar Wrote: [ -> ]If a game is re-released with additional content that content should be available for people who already own the game without having to buy it again.
Except this is sort of different, because this is twelve brand-new characters, rebalancing, updated gameplay mechanics, etc. It's a little bit bigger than a patch-- you'd have to download quite a lot of data.
As for specific things like DLC characters being bought separately and only buying the ones you want-- that would throw off online play
significantly. Just look at MK9's online play-- incompatible patch players are all over the place; some characters without any DLC characters at all! Meaning that if you did a lot of practice with, say, Rain, and the opposing player doesn't have the Rain DLC,
you can't use Rain. Having the option to pick and choose what characters you want is nice, but if you never actually get to use them in competitive play--
what's the point?
Ultimate is going to put everybody that buys it on equal level.
(09-11-2011, 04:23 PM)Goemar Wrote: [ -> ]Imagine if instead of the big DLC for Fallout 3 being DLC, it came out on disc every time, with the original game (sure your save would still work in this case). It would just be stupid, and that's what this is - stupid.
Except Fallout 3 DLC is usually one or two missions and some new items. It's not a
giant update like this is.
(09-11-2011, 04:22 PM)Flannel Bastard Wrote: [ -> ]But its so wrong that Nintendo are releasing an attachment that will improve their system?
People have a right to be mad about UMvC3 just like people have a right to be upset about Nintendo's ridiculous second analog stick attachment. The difference is that UMvC3 has been in the air for months, which is plenty of time for people to get over the fact that they're "being shafted" and actually realize that overall it's a better deal than buying a bunch of characters separately. The Nintendo attachment has only been known about for a few days and people are still calming down over it.
Plus the details are still a little foggy; if the new attachment ends up becoming a requirement in order to play many future games, it will be
a very big deal. You are not required to buy Ultimate to still enjoy Marvel.
Is UMvC3 dumb in essence?
Yes, it's very dumb in essence. They could have delayed MvC3 longer and then U wouldn't have to exist.
But UMvC3 is more for the hardcore crowd anyway. Nobody is saying you
have to buy it, especially if you're doing just fine with vanilla MvC3. I'm sure there are going to be plenty of people still playing vanilla so they can keep their old balance and old characters. People still play Street Fighter II to this day. Capcom is not going to break into your house and break your knees if you own MvC3 and don't buy Ultimate.