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"Hey you should get Skype so we can do voice and video chat!" - "Uhm okay" - No voice or video chat done ever.

I've actually had to convince people that there's text chat on Skype because they didn't have a webcam or were just camera shy. But yeah, it's rare that I ever video chat with people, the only person who audio chatted with is now too busy to do it now, what with school and all. But yeah, it is frustrating that Skype is the replacement, it doesn't exactly have the same feel. But eh, maybe that's just a superficial difference.

I really liked how MSN was customizable (including custom emotes) with the theme colors and wallpapers, and it had a nice feeling to it. In Skype I can't even set it so I can see my own avatar when talking to others (I look at that stuff a lot okay) and it's not as easy to change status messages/avatars/usernames. With MSN you just had to open your buddy list, and in a couple clicks each thing was done. With Skype you have to click a menu and navigate to your profile, away from your chats and edit them, and changing your avatar is a bit annoying because your webcam automatically activates (yes I'm a bit funny about seeing myself in photos and video). So yes I will miss MSN to a degree, but at least I really only got it for one friend in the first place.

MSN Messenger was a big part of my childhood. It's a shame to hear this, even though everyone uses skype now (though I vastly prefer MSN for 1on1 chats, Skype runs group chats better).

Though when people tell me AIM is better than MSN I... I get really confused. I always felt like MSN had a nicer interface, more customization and was generally better in every way.

Well, I prefer AIM myself since feels "lighter-weight", IMO. Although I can't deny that I love MSN's copy-paste picture sharing abilities too.

Who doesn't use Skype now adays..? Like, seriously. Windows live messenger is and always was pretty garbage.

I just use Trillian. Free, combines them all, less bloated... Has Skype support, but not for calls, only the chat.
Also supports IRC. So you can join the tSR chat on sign-in to all your service. Wink Wink.

I like Skype a lot better so I'm perfectly fine with this, though there is still a tinge of nostalgia about MSN...

Hey when I sent people a message in MSN (ICQ, etc) while they're offline and then go offline they receive the message when they go online.
Skype's p2p system can't do that.
I'm still strugling getting used to that.

(11-14-2012, 01:15 AM)Previous Wrote: [ -> ]Hey when I sent people a message in MSN (ICQ, etc) while they're offline and then go offline they receive the message when they go online.
Skype's p2p system can't do that.
I'm still strugling getting used to that.

I don't get why Skype doesn't do this. Mark and I have taken to just sending offline messages over Facebook because Skype is bad at it.

Peer-to-peer infrastructure (p2p). Unlike a Client-Server system where clients (chat users) send messages to the server which then sends the message to the recipient-client, a p2p system like Skype uses the server just for account information. If you send someone a message on Skype, the program asks the Skype server where to send the message and then sends it "directly" to the recipient - thus, if he's not online, it cannot be send, as there is no message server that would store the messages until delivery.
(May not be exactly correct, but that's the idea) :<

p2p chat has pros and cons.

I thought Skype could do offline messages. Or did it only change recently?

Offline messages is one thing I would want on Steam. It'd make it simpler to organise multiplayer game times and trades.

(11-15-2012, 08:25 AM)Previous Wrote: [ -> ]Peer-to-peer infrastructure (p2p). Unlike a Client-Server system where clients (chat users) send messages to the server which then sends the message to the recipient-client, a p2p system like Skype uses the server just for account information. If you send someone a message on Skype, the program asks the Skype server where to send the message and then sends it "directly" to the recipient - thus, if he's not online, it cannot be send, as there is no message server that would store the messages until delivery.
(May not be exactly correct, but that's the idea) :<

p2p chat has pros and cons.

That's pretty interesting, actually! I didn't know there were different types of chat systems.

(11-15-2012, 12:43 PM)puggsoy Wrote: [ -> ]I thought Skype could do offline messages. Or did it only change recently?

Welll I don't think it ever worked for me. :I

Well I tested it just now and it worked, so yeah.