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(05-23-2016, 03:01 PM)Ton Wrote: [ -> ]http://general-geekery.blogspot.com/2016...s-new.html
I have no shame.

Honestly Ton, I actually wish I had the finesse you had to literally say everything that's wrong with the new movie. A tip of the hat goes to you.
Aw, thanks a lot, man. Smile
(05-23-2016, 03:01 PM)Ton Wrote: [ -> ]http://general-geekery.blogspot.com/2016...s-new.html
I have no shame.

An invisible man
Sleeping in your bed
Ow, let me tell you something


One of the first reviews of the movie.
Right now, it has a 74% at RT and 60 at Metacritic. I dunno about this. Something feels a bit suspicious about these positive reviews.
Like the critics being bribed by Sony for these reviews, ala the accusations with game critics bribed by Activsion and EA Games.
But both sites are often viewed as jokes and never get taken seriously, considering audience reviews on both sites beg to differ.

You know that leaked plot that was on Reddit before it got deleted? Majority of what it mentioned turned out to be true in some ways.
As that guy's review in the above video mentioned things that were in it. Any other honest or negative reviews besides him?

Competition might end up killing this movie, though. With Legend of Tarzan, Secret Life of Pets, Bad Moms, and The Infiltrator coming out.
They remade Robocop, it kinda sucked, like badly. Do I hate it? No. It's just a bad film.

Same with Ghostbusters. No massive deal.

The Star Wars prequels were different because they damaged the Star Wars universe by adding/changing crap so it makes no sense or is very lame.

Ghostbusters doesn't damage the original in any way. I do wish failure upon it mind as I'm so sick of bad/cash-grab remakes. Yes people love Ghostbusters. But they loved THAT Ghostbusters, not just the name Ghostbusters. I mean hell, the second one wasn't even that good.
I don't know why the Robocop remake gets so much hate--I thought it was just as good as the original. The biggest problem with it is that it's a remake, and it covers basically all of the same ground that the original film did and most of the time in much the same way (with some added black instead of the characteristic Robocop platinum in the name of being new). So in the end it just felt like a shinier version of something we already have and that most people already love.

Had they, and many of these other remakes coming out, gone ahead and just made a Robocop 4, I think we would have had a much better film. Which is basically my stance on film remakes at all. There's no need to remake something which originated on film and is loved as a film. Sure, remake things which originated in animation, comic books, video games, literature--that's all fine. But for some reason remaking something in the medium it originally appeared seems weird (with the exception of video games, usually). I would rather see these franchises continue. Terminator Genisys maybe isn't the greatest Terminator movie we've ever seen, but I definitely prefer that to "Here's Terminator with New Graphics." It continues the story while giving us what we love.

Kind of losing my way. I was going to make that argument with Jurassic World before I remembered that Jurassic Park is a book (shame on me). Anyways, just... I would rather if instead of rebooting Robocop we got Robocop 4. If instead of rebooting Ghostbusters we got Ghostbusters 3. Instead of "wiping the slate clean" let's get some "reboots" that use the slate as a backdrop. How does the world of Ghostbusters look after thirty years of knowing that ghosts are real and we have the technology to combat and interact with them? That would be something much better than "Forget the Old Ones, here's the New One!"

And y'know, same thing with whatever remakes are or have come out.
Found a review by this girl who, as the thumbnail shows, didn't really like it. (Warning: Loud stock footage)

This ought to be spread around, as women who have given it bad reviews shouldn't be ignored by most media.
Also, there have been reports on some cinemas not showing it as much, and almost empty screenings.

While it comes out here in Australia tomorrow. The cinema I go to has almost all sessions in Vmax, 3d, and even sessions of them combined.
These ones are not worth it for any movie, as they are expensive compared to normal screenings, even if you have a pension card.
Sony desperate for our box office cash? Looks like it too me.
This movie isn't even out yet here in America and the people reviewing it are probably being paid to do it, those guys can't fool me.

While I'm at it I'm gonna leave this lovely meme of Feig and Murray together here:
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Phone won't allow me to quote but here are a few things that made the new Robocop terrible.

First, crime wasn't that bad. In the original cops were being killed, the street was run by criminals etc etc. A need for a super cop wasn't justified.

Secondly, why did it matter if he was a second slower than the soldier robots? He wasn't designed or built for a war. He was designed to be a cop. This shouldn't have been an issue at all.

Thirdly, the massive tone down. Non-lethal bullets? The original was purposefully over the top. This was just tame. You may say that doesn't matter, but just how Mario should never tell Bowser to go fuck himself Robocop needs to shoot lots of people and be awesome.

There's loads and loads of other dumb stuff that ruins the movie but they are my main 3 issues.

Also Terminator Genesis (yes it has an i you stupid filmakers) was an utter pile of garbage. Maybe even worse than 3, and that was terrible. Like please, please, just stop making Terminator films.
More reviews are up now, on all sides of the movie. I think the ones that aren't based on nostalgia, and aren't from a SJW point of view are probably the most accurate, like this one.



The trailer pretty much implied the movie would end up like that, so, lol.
(07-13-2016, 03:20 PM)Uncle Drew Wrote: [ -> ]This movie isn't even out yet here in America and the people reviewing it are probably being paid to do it, those guys can't fool me.

While I'm at it I'm gonna leave this lovely meme of Feig and Akyroyd together here:
[Image: 13707662_274428402922629_711606794127989...e=582DF4B6]

Dude. That ain't Aykroyd.
(07-15-2016, 10:10 PM)Ton Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-13-2016, 03:20 PM)Uncle Drew Wrote: [ -> ]This movie isn't even out yet here in America and the people reviewing it are probably being paid to do it, those guys can't fool me.

While I'm at it I'm gonna leave this lovely meme of Feig and Akyroyd together here:
[Image: 13707662_274428402922629_711606794127989...e=582DF4B6]

Dude. That ain't Aykroyd.

Oops, I better fix that then
nah just keep it


So uhm I went to see this movie on launch day. It's...not bad? And the movie can stand on its own two legs. I tried to watch it objectively, and I can't say that at any point that I disliked it. It's a good summer film, and it's definitely not Ghostbusters 1 (I think Feig knows that he can't top this) but thank god it's not Ghostbusters 2.
btw, if no one's mentioned it yet - if people can make a big stink about the "Michael Bay Turtles" when Michael Bay is literally an executive producer and not the director, then you can argue in Ghostbuster's favor as Dan Akroyd serves as the executive producer on this one. I mean this definitely isn't Ghostbusters 3, but it's really, really not trying to be Ghostbusters 3.

However, the one thing - and it's probably damning - the whole film plays out like a really long cartoon, and the film itself knows not to take itself seriously. But that's good. Additionally, Feig really writes the characters well playing upon each actress' strengths to better flesh out the characters. It's the first Feig movie starring Melissa McCarthy that actually kinda redeemed the actress - like I didn't completely hate her. Also, if anything, Kate McKinnon's character completely steals the show with how wacky her character is. Heart I want a sequel so I can enjoy more Kate McKinnon as a Ghostbuster.
Chris Hemsworth plays a brainless ditz (which is really a role you don't see men play in comedies) and Feig wrote him extremely well. The weird chemistry he has with the Ghostbusters really works out well for him, too. Unfortunately he's not Louis Tully and does not do their taxes.

The only REAL criticism I had is that if you're trying to compare it to the original, the entire movie feels like a frantic train - things just keep going and going and going and then "oh, here's the bad guy and now we are defeating him". Also, extremely grating product placement, but I think that was completely intentional.

I did like how all four original Ghostbusters (yep, you read that right) and Sigourney Weaver all made cameos in the film. Oh, yeah and one other thing. If it's obvious, it's not trying to fill the other film's shoes - it's got a completely different, very cartoonish antagonist in this film
I never watched anything related to Ghostbusters but for some reason this film had a lot of game tie-ins, even on the C64 of all things


At least the chiptune version of the movie theme is very cool
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