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(04-28-2009, 05:25 AM)Vipershark Wrote: [ -> ]do you know how epic it is to be on your last life and finish with a well placed falcon punch
quite much like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptjfRIhf9us
(04-28-2009, 05:25 AM)Vipershark Wrote: [ -> ]do you know how epic it is to be on your last life and finish with a well placed falcon punch

Whenever i play melee with my friends, i allways have to end the match with a falcon punch. Somehow, i do it almost every time.
Lets see uh...

1: Change clone characters movesets...

2: Change bowser a bit... (M&L 3 here and there)

3: Get rid of tripping.

4: Add a LOT more options to the multiplayer modes.

5: Bonus stages that are actualy FUN!

6: Real missions and chalenges! "I have to climb a waterfall! Why? CUZ ITZ THERE!" What was that about...

7: As much as I like rob... Change him... Replace him with another robot character! Or just add another mechanical character.

Thats about it...
I'd like to add this: GIVE GANONDORF A UNIQUE MOVESET DAMN'T!

They ruined him for me as a Captain Falcon clone.
Remove Wolf and Toon Link, change Falco and Ganondorf, and add Krystal, Paper Mario, a Final Fantasy that is not from 7 or 8, Megaman(any but Legends). Add Bowser's Castle, Some Megaman stage, a FF stage, and a Paper Mario stage.
(05-01-2009, 07:46 PM)K0n9 Wrote: [ -> ]Remove Wolf
Blasphemer.
(05-01-2009, 07:46 PM)K0n9 Wrote: [ -> ]Remove Wolf and Toon Link, change Falco and Ganondorf, and add Krystal, Paper Mario, a Final Fantasy that is not from 7 or 8, Megaman(any but Legends). Add Bowser's Castle, Some Megaman stage, a FF stage, and a Paper Mario stage.

taking out the best characters? nothx.
Although a Bowser's Castle Stage and a Paper Mario one would be quite rad.
seriously why Paper Mario isn't in Smash Bros yet
if they don't take out wolf, they need to drastically change him so that he shares nothing with fox
same goes for falco

also insert krystal
(05-01-2009, 10:58 PM)Vipershark Wrote: [ -> ]if they don't take out wolf, they need to drastically change him so that he shares nothing with fox
same goes for falco

Have you even played Fox, Falco, or Wolf?

the /most/ they have in common is Landmaster Final Smash. Falco has Fox's Fire Fox attack, but save for a couple of Smash Attacks, Fox and Falco are pretty much Mario and Luigi. While Fox and Wolf are pretty much Mario and Wario.

If anything, Ganon plays more like Falcon than Falco to Fox.

And I'm a huge supporter of Brawl Ganon. One of the funnest characters to play.
(05-01-2009, 11:39 PM)Ark Kuvis Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-01-2009, 10:58 PM)Vipershark Wrote: [ -> ]if they don't take out wolf, they need to drastically change him so that he shares nothing with fox
same goes for falco
the /most/ they have in common is Landmaster Final Smash. Falco has Fox's Fire Fox attack, but save for a couple of Smash Attacks, Fox and Falco are pretty much Mario and Luigi. While Fox and Wolf are pretty much Mario and Wario.

I know. They're an attack triangle. Falco is speed, Wolf is Power, and Fox is All-Around. But still, they move in the exact same way and have the same attacks. Aside from a few minor differences, anyone who mains one of the three can easily choose another and use the EXACT same strategies, and only compensating for the speed differences. Basically, wolf and falco are just luigi-fied clones, which are STILL CLONES. Either totally revamp their movesets so they move nothing alike and have different Final Smashes, or get rid of them altogether.

The same goes for Ike and Roy being Marth clones. I'm all for Roy coming back, but they'll have to change him up. Ike is different enough to sort of qualify, but he needs some minor move changes.

Toon/Young link should be totally changed though.
in the end they're still clones.
(05-01-2009, 10:58 PM)Vipershark Wrote: [ -> ]if they don't take out wolf, they need to drastically change him so that he shares nothing with fox
same goes for falco

also insert krystal

I bet her moves would be similar to fox's, and she'd be given a staff taunt like Ganondorf.
P. much all of wolf's moves are different (his a moves in particular) so I'm fine with him. IMO they should give Wolf's moveset to falco, then scrap wolf.
I think they should give some of the attacks better names.

PIKMIN THROW
FIRE WOLF
FOX ILLUSION
WIZARD'S FOOT
WARLOCK PUNCH
(05-02-2009, 01:08 AM)Vipershark Wrote: [ -> ]I know. They're an attack triangle. Falco is speed, Wolf is Power, and Fox is All-Around. But still, they move in the exact same way and have the same attacks. Aside from a few minor differences, anyone who mains one of the three can easily choose another and use the EXACT same strategies, and only compensating for the speed differences. Basically, wolf and falco are just luigi-fied clones, which are STILL CLONES. Either totally revamp their movesets so they move nothing alike and have different Final Smashes, or get rid of them altogether.

The same goes for Ike and Roy being Marth clones. I'm all for Roy coming back, but they'll have to change him up. Ike is different enough to sort of qualify, but he needs some minor move changes.

Toon/Young link should be totally changed though.

You obviously haven't played Falco or Fox. When it comes to Speed, Fox is the fastest Star Fox character.

You haven't played Wolf either, because ALL of his A attacks are different than Fox's. I mean, Luigi shares more A Attacks with Mario than Wolf does with Fox. The only attacks that are sort of iffy are the special moves. Though even there, Wolf's Special Moves are changed enough to make him play different than what Fox or Falco players would play.

Ike isn't a Marth Clone, either. Shows you haven't played either of them. The point would be more valid if you used Lucas and Ness instead of Ike and Marth.
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