01-06-2012, 10:14 PM
3/4 of the sprites I put in that first post have been ripped. The only ones we didn't get are M&L 2. It could be fun to bring back, but I don't want to overload us with projects AND most wanted.
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01-06-2012, 10:14 PM
01-20-2012, 01:15 AM
To liven up the Gaming Discussion, wouldn't it be great if "OTs" were made for new release games? "OTs" would still be subject to normal topic rules; Only difference is that it's not a necropost unless it's made at least one month after the game's release date. They could also serve as series discussion to cut down on excessive topics.
So far I've made OTs for Mario Party 9, Xenoblade Chronicles, Rhythm Heaven Fever, and Kingdom Hearts 3D; I think other members could tackle 360 & PS3 releases.
All in all, I think a general "cleaning" of all of the forums would be in order. We have topics dating back to mid 2008; They serve no more purpose and would just be bait for newbie necroposting. I have gone back and deleted topics I made that are no longer relevant, while bumping the only topics with any relevance.
So far I've made OTs for Mario Party 9, Xenoblade Chronicles, Rhythm Heaven Fever, and Kingdom Hearts 3D; I think other members could tackle 360 & PS3 releases.
All in all, I think a general "cleaning" of all of the forums would be in order. We have topics dating back to mid 2008; They serve no more purpose and would just be bait for newbie necroposting. I have gone back and deleted topics I made that are no longer relevant, while bumping the only topics with any relevance.
01-20-2012, 08:12 AM
Uhhh that's kinda how it works in the gaming discussion anyway.
Also, deleting all of the old topics would take too much work. It would be much easier to just not Necropost.
Also, deleting all of the old topics would take too much work. It would be much easier to just not Necropost.
01-20-2012, 08:37 AM
(01-20-2012, 08:12 AM)Kat Wrote: [ -> ]Also, deleting all of the old topics would take too much work. It would be much easier to just not Necropost.
That, and it also goes against the concept of a forum to begin with. If you want temporary conversation, you have instant messengers. Generally, threads are supposed to be permanent, even if they are old and no longer posted in. So, I agree - just don't necropost and there's really no problem.
01-20-2012, 02:21 PM
(01-20-2012, 01:15 AM)Azure-Tranquility Wrote: [ -> ]To liven up the Gaming Discussion, wouldn't it be great if "OTs" were made for new release games?No, not really.
Not only are there more games that don't need threads, (Rhythm Heaven, are you shitting me?),
It'd just eventually end in a "general release thread."
01-20-2012, 04:23 PM
(01-20-2012, 02:21 PM)Proton Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think so. I've seen forums do it, albeit not in this exact fashion. It never really became a "general" topic, it's just that instead of making a new topic for the same game "series" every few weeks or so, it'd only be done maybe every year or two. Look at the previous 50+ pages and you'll see what I mean. Apparantly, users can delete topics that aren't locked, so there's that also. I went back and deleted 10+ old topics of mine to cut down on flooding, only bumping 2-3 topics that could still contribute.(01-20-2012, 01:15 AM)Azure-Tranquility Wrote: [ -> ]To liven up the Gaming Discussion, wouldn't it be great if "OTs" were made for new release games?No, not really.
Not only are there more games that don't need threads, (Rhythm Heaven, are you shitting me?),
It'd just eventually end in a "general release thread."
(BTW, counting mine, Sonikku, and Dioshiba, there were 3 rhythm heaven topics altogether; Clearly there's plenty of interest there, so it's best just to have one topic for all that madness.)
(01-20-2012, 08:37 AM)Petie Wrote: [ -> ]Still, despite a (very large I might add) rules topic, newbies are still prone to necroposting; It got to a ridiculous level not too long ago, and I can admit it's calmed down, but it could always happen again.(01-20-2012, 08:12 AM)Kat Wrote: [ -> ]Also, deleting all of the old topics would take too much work. It would be much easier to just not Necropost.
That, and it also goes against the concept of a forum to begin with. If you want temporary conversation, you have instant messengers. Generally, threads are supposed to be permanent, even if they are old and no longer posted in. So, I agree - just don't necropost and there's really no problem.
If it weren't for that rash of necroposting not too long ago, I wouldn't have even given it a second thought, but it's not a problem that can be ignored should another wave occur.
At the very least, couldn't an auto-lock system be implemented? That way, topics could still be read, but not necroposted in by newbies.
01-20-2012, 04:54 PM
(01-20-2012, 04:23 PM)Azure-Tranquility Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think so. I've seen forums do it, albeit not in this exact fashion. It never really became a "general" topicoh man, this is such a whole great point of everything oh wow.
Fuck, other forums also think that banners need as many Nintendo characters as possible, ice chewing is a mega-fetish and being 10 while playing Grand Theft Auto, Manhunt and Saints Row makes you the greatest.
Is that really what you think?
Look on TSR, there's a pokemon section, a "What are you playing" thread, "games you hate/love," Video game music general, etc.
It cuts down on small topics and things that could derail other topics, but also adds that extra value of personal discussion.
Which is what TSR does a lot.
You wouldn't have to delete your own topics if you didn't make 20 a day over every little game that comes out.
I swear that you just make threads for the sake of having threads.
All of your data is easily squeezable into 1 general release thread.
Normally, a game in a big series or just one that's been something big for awhile has a much larger discussion potential.
And if one game happens to come up a lot, then make it it's own thread.
News and controversy is another subject altogether.
And don't go there with Rhythm Heaven.
Each thread was less than one page long, and each new topic was the same shit each time.
You even made two, instead of just bumping or realizing that after 3 other threads the discussion was barely there.
And let's look at the latest threads.
Minecraft, of course, is popular, been around for a long time and is ripe with topics to discuss, with even Terraria piggy-backing off of it.
Navigator, is a topic of Tyvon's, about his own game, but is mostly his own updates.
Skyrim, Mario Kart, Sonic, Super Smash, all big series games.
Most of the threads that have failed are ones of small games or games no one is following, usually being MMOs, small series (Rage, Prototype, Witcher, TOR, Borderlands 2, Rhythm Heaven etc.)
01-20-2012, 05:24 PM
Most newbie necroposting is done to get a post count of 20 so if they are randomly necroposting they probably don't even care.
Also adding new content to a thread, no matter how old it is, is very much allowed. There is also a difference between adding new content and just posting.
Also adding new content to a thread, no matter how old it is, is very much allowed. There is also a difference between adding new content and just posting.
01-21-2012, 02:34 AM
(01-20-2012, 04:54 PM)Proton Wrote: [ -> ](01-20-2012, 04:23 PM)Azure-Tranquility Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think so. I've seen forums do it, albeit not in this exact fashion. It never really became a "general" topicoh man, this is such a whole great point of everything oh wow.
Fuck, other forums also think that banners need as many Nintendo characters as possible, ice chewing is a mega-fetish and being 10 while playing Grand Theft Auto, Manhunt and Saints Row makes you the greatest.
Is that really what you think?
Not really, no. Where did you draw this from? if you must know, I saw this system being used on NeoGAF, and I thought it was a very organized way of handling game discussion. No strings or secret motives behind it.
Look on TSR, there's a pokemon section, a "What are you playing" thread, "games you hate/love," Video game music general, etc.
It cuts down on small topics and things that could derail other topics, but also adds that extra value of personal discussion.
Which is what TSR does a lot.
I do wonder why Pokemon gets its own sub-forum. If Pokemon deserves a sub-forum, then so does every other popular game series, yet only Pokemon got one. Even so, that was a decision of the staff and I am in no position to argue against their decision.
You wouldn't have to delete your own topics if you didn't make 20 a day over every little game that comes out.
I swear that you just make threads for the sake of having threads.
All of your data is easily squeezable into 1 general release thread.
I didn't feel I HAD to delete the topics, it was a choice I made of my own volition. I do not make threads just for the sake of it, hence why I took the liberty of deleting old topics; Something I don't see other members doing.
The way I have organized my OTs is to act as both a topic for the newest series entry in addition to discussing the series as a whole. You could say it's a topic with double motives.
Normally, a game in a big series or just one that's been something big for awhile has a much larger discussion potential.
And if one game happens to come up a lot, then make it it's own thread.
Any game, no, any THING has discussion potential. Whether it's large or small, I think as long as it's not zero interest, it's worth making a topic. Regardless, I still think trying to consolidate the info into as few topics as possible is beneficial to the forum, but at the same time you can't have one topic that tries to be a jack of all trades, as it would get way too cluttered.
What you're proposing is a topic to discuss all new releases, and considering how often new games release, the topic would have too many subjects to talk about at once. New people would enter the topic and not know what the current subject is, as the title "General Releases" is way too vague.
And don't go there with Rhythm Heaven.
Each thread was less than one page long, and each new topic was the same shit each time.
Well maybe that's why I made an OT? Besides, the new game is coming out in 2-3 weeks. Even if there is no discussion for Fever, the DS game and even the GBA original can still be discussed.
On NeoGAF, a topic is usually made a week or two in advance. The only reason I made the OTs for games releasing much later is to not have to do it later, and in the case of Kingdom Hearts 3D & Xenoblade Chronicles it was an existing topic that I edited into an OT.(I'm not even interested in Xenoblade personally, I just wanted to deliver the news of its localization at the time of its announcement.)
Both the Mario Party 9 OT and Kingdom Hearts 3D OT can be read as "Mario Party series discussion" and "Kingdom Hearts series discussion", respectively. Same goes for Rhythm Heaven Fever OT.
And let's look at the latest threads.
Minecraft, of course, is popular, been around for a long time and is ripe with topics to discuss, with even Terraria piggy-backing off of it.
Navigator, is a topic of Tyvon's, about his own game, but is mostly his own updates.
Skyrim, Mario Kart, Sonic, Super Smash, all big series games.
Most of the threads that have failed are ones of small games or games no one is following, usually being MMOs, small series (Rage, Prototype, Witcher, TOR, Borderlands 2, Rhythm Heaven etc.)
Finally, just because something is popular or unpopular, it shouldn't sabotage its discussion. Plenty of people dislike those games and would rather talk about something "small" such as Rhythm Heaven or Prototype.
01-21-2012, 08:44 AM
Pokemon has its own subforum because it gets popular enough when a new game comes out to warrant it.
also it isn't organized, it actually clutters things up big time.
If you have something new to add just update the old thread instead of one game having like 5 different threads.
Your idea just isn't going to work for tSR. When you run your own gaming forum you can run things like that, but your idea just makes a lot of really pointless threads that are rarely going to be posted in.
Hell, if you were new to tSR, with all if these threads I'd think that you were just spamming to get 20 posts.
also it isn't organized, it actually clutters things up big time.
If you have something new to add just update the old thread instead of one game having like 5 different threads.
Your idea just isn't going to work for tSR. When you run your own gaming forum you can run things like that, but your idea just makes a lot of really pointless threads that are rarely going to be posted in.
Hell, if you were new to tSR, with all if these threads I'd think that you were just spamming to get 20 posts.
01-21-2012, 12:32 PM
Again, Whack.
This means it's not being discussed.
1
page.
NeoGAF can get up to 5000 active members at a time.
TSR gets like,
10.
You're expecting too much to come.
The Pokemon subforum also contains a lot of threads about team development or tips, and usually requires a personal level of discussion towards one person, sort of like a sprite in Pixel Art or a game in Game Dev.
You also do make threads for the sake of it occasionally, as you have made threads with almost no topic other than "This thread is about *insert game*."
A General Release thread doesn't have too many topics at once.
As I said,
and then proved,
and then you denied,
even though it was proven,
most small series topics (Rage, Prototype, Witcher, TOR, Borderlands 2, Rhythm Heaven etc.) do not get much more than a page.
Pretty sure that's 10 posts or so.
Just,
don't go spouting Mario or Zelda or something you know for a fact will have at least 4 pages by the end of a week.
A new person goes in and makes that mistake?
You really think there isn't a topic for something that popular that they can't be redirected to?
There's not that much unless someone like you,
who makes countless threads at a time,
are always posting that release.
Reality-wise, people would just post what they're hyping and talk for about it for a bit, just that in most cases,
as shown by actual threads in the Gaming section,
they do not last an entire page.
And the OT makes no sense.
Why is it "Official?"
Is there a game company representative coming to TSR who is making these threads?
If you post it first,
chances are your thread is the one that's staying,
except in your case, where you don't bump your own,
or even Sonikku's or Diogalesu's other topics.
Quote:And don't go there with Rhythm Heaven.
Each thread was less than one page long, and each new topic was the same shit each time.
Well maybe that's why I made an OT? Besides, the new game is coming out in 2-3 weeks. Even if there is no discussion for Fever, the DS game and even the GBA original can still be discussed.
This means it's not being discussed.
1
page.
NeoGAF can get up to 5000 active members at a time.
TSR gets like,
10.
You're expecting too much to come.
The Pokemon subforum also contains a lot of threads about team development or tips, and usually requires a personal level of discussion towards one person, sort of like a sprite in Pixel Art or a game in Game Dev.
You also do make threads for the sake of it occasionally, as you have made threads with almost no topic other than "This thread is about *insert game*."
A General Release thread doesn't have too many topics at once.
As I said,
and then proved,
and then you denied,
even though it was proven,
most small series topics (Rage, Prototype, Witcher, TOR, Borderlands 2, Rhythm Heaven etc.) do not get much more than a page.
Pretty sure that's 10 posts or so.
Just,
don't go spouting Mario or Zelda or something you know for a fact will have at least 4 pages by the end of a week.
A new person goes in and makes that mistake?
You really think there isn't a topic for something that popular that they can't be redirected to?
There's not that much unless someone like you,
who makes countless threads at a time,
are always posting that release.
Reality-wise, people would just post what they're hyping and talk for about it for a bit, just that in most cases,
as shown by actual threads in the Gaming section,
they do not last an entire page.
And the OT makes no sense.
Why is it "Official?"
Is there a game company representative coming to TSR who is making these threads?
If you post it first,
chances are your thread is the one that's staying,
except in your case, where you don't bump your own,
or even Sonikku's or Diogalesu's other topics.
01-21-2012, 04:28 PM
Fine, I get it. If this is what the community agrees on, then it shall be so~
EDIT: I went and deleted the topics that wouldn't generate a lot of traffic: Xenoblade & Rhythm Heaven. I edited the Mario Party and Kingdom Hearts topics back to regular topics, since I'm sure those have plenty of discussion potential still.
EDIT 2: General New Release Thread
EDIT: I went and deleted the topics that wouldn't generate a lot of traffic: Xenoblade & Rhythm Heaven. I edited the Mario Party and Kingdom Hearts topics back to regular topics, since I'm sure those have plenty of discussion potential still.
EDIT 2: General New Release Thread
01-29-2012, 11:14 PM
http://www.spriters-resource.com/communi...#pid422809
This thread gave me idea
What if we were to implement some kind of "Auto-Sage" function, where after a predetermined amount of time, threads would no longer be bumped by new posts. It could also be something that could be implemented in a mods toolbar that is displayed in threads. (Same location as Lock, Move, Etc... Don't know how its labeled in MyBB)
Or something similar, an Auto-Lock after say two monthes without posts. Just a suggestion.
This thread gave me idea
What if we were to implement some kind of "Auto-Sage" function, where after a predetermined amount of time, threads would no longer be bumped by new posts. It could also be something that could be implemented in a mods toolbar that is displayed in threads. (Same location as Lock, Move, Etc... Don't know how its labeled in MyBB)
Or something similar, an Auto-Lock after say two monthes without posts. Just a suggestion.
01-29-2012, 11:17 PM
The auto-lock thing has been suggested before though, and it got negative reception.
01-30-2012, 12:21 AM
Shit like that doesn't work with the forum software, also doesn't work well with how the submissions threads work at all.