You mean... super armor? :V I get what you mean, and I think that'd semi-work. It'd have to be like Yoshi's air jump or Snake's up B. It should have a limit of how much knockback it can take before giving out.

(12-13-2009, 11:31 PM)Krampus Wrote: Back in the 64 version Ness was always going to have PK Starstorm. If anyone gets a new FS its Lucas.

I don't quite understand this. Neither Ness nor Lucas learned PK Starstorm, I think they both deserve at least 1/2 psi attacks that actually belonged to them :/

Well, quite obviously, they didn't learn PK(or PSI) Starstorm, but taking into the account that they have 4(3 for Ness) moves from their PSI offensive allies, it was bound to be given to them. Plus the wonderful excuse they came up with. "They taught it to them "

yeah, but they both already have far cooler far more well known signature attacks (psi rockin and pk love respectively)

Well, I never said they should have gotten Starstorm :V

Who ever get whatever, I don't mind. Ness could have Starstorm and Lucas can have his special or the other war around. Whichever appeals to others more. Or have both special PSI attacks and be completely different.

Personally, I think we should just have a Poo/Kumatora assist trophy duplicating the different effects that each guys starstorm had.

We should keep Lucas with Starstorm and give PK Love to Claus.

We could just make Claus's "tremendous lightning" strike his final smash. Lucas has a stronger PK Love anyways.

No.

Lucas does not get starmstorm

Lucas should get Love and Ness should get Rockin.


Also has a Roy Moveset been posted? I have one in mind.

No definitive one. Post away.

It seems wrong to take the FS away from both characters who originally used it.

(12-14-2009, 05:52 PM)Heat Miser Wrote: No definitive one. Post away.

It seems wrong to take the FS away from both characters who originally used it.

And yet it was also wrong to give them those Final Smashes in the first place, when they had perfectly usable moves that were actually theirs.

Besides, it's not the same as changing other moves. PK Starstorm didn't have any room for technique or anything, it wasn't controllable. No one will go "but I always did this special thing with that move!" If players miss the PK Starstorm Final Smash, it's because it looked pretty.

So who gets Starstorm? Claus?

How about a Kumatora assist Trophy where she uses Starstorm?

(12-13-2009, 11:39 PM)Apparatus Wrote:

(12-13-2009, 11:31 PM)Krampus Wrote: Back in the 64 version Ness was always going to have PK Starstorm. If anyone gets a new FS its Lucas.

I don't quite understand this.

It was discovered through a hack that PK Starstorm was going to be Ness' FS in SSB64.

(12-14-2009, 10:08 PM)Sol Wrote: And yet it was also wrong to give them those Final Smashes in the first place, when they had perfectly usable moves that were actually theirs.

Besides, it's not the same as changing other moves. PK Starstorm didn't have any room for technique or anything, it wasn't controllable. No one will go "but I always did this special thing with that move!" If players miss the PK Starstorm Final Smash, it's because it looked pretty.

Back in the N64 PK Starstorm had a long time of waiting to finally be used.

I think it's wrong to change something that's not for decloning purposes or fixing problems. PK Starstorm had no problems, it worked.

Maybe I'd be more okay about having the move removed if it was something half assed... but this was there since the beginning!

The only reason you wanna get rid of it is because "Ness never used it!" which is silly.

(12-14-2009, 10:52 PM)Krampus Wrote:

(12-13-2009, 11:39 PM)Apparatus Wrote:

(12-13-2009, 11:31 PM)Krampus Wrote: Back in the 64 version Ness was always going to have PK Starstorm. If anyone gets a new FS its Lucas.

I don't quite understand this.

It was discovered through a hack that PK Starstorm was going to be Ness' FS in SSB64.

what?