LESS TALKING, MORE CRAP >:I

(06-24-2010, 06:47 PM)Rökkan Wrote: oh ok it's just about the face/head

no it isn't :C

I'm not explaining myself too well and I don't want to derail!

So here is something else:


well, would you like some? It was originally "would you like some pills?" but I could get in trouble. so "salt" kinda stuck. But you wanna wats epic? salt on pills. *as she said that, the world exploded in awesomness and epicness*


autarra © me
round edges art © me

that's right! She invented circles(?) for backgrounds.

More Crap it is then.

boy what a description that is "epicness and awesomeness"

(06-25-2010, 03:42 PM)Mabelma Wrote: More Crap it is then.

i liked "toilet" a lot better

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holy what is with those muscles

(06-25-2010, 10:54 AM)DrSlouch Wrote: uuuh idk I found what zeemort said perfectly valid and i like stylized art-- the point isn't to be perfectly realistic when someone corrects anatomy tho and are you really going to say that just b/c someone doesn't literally, explicitly state that they're trying to do something means that they aren't trying to do it?? i imagine the artist would probably appreciate the critique anyway (i'm p. sure every artist who isn't a sycophantic 13-year-old does)

i don't really know how to word this but the point of correcting anatomy on stylized art isn't to make it "realistic" it's to make it "consistent" so to speak
again, don't really know how to word this but some stylizations and distortions of anatomy "just work" and are "okay" and others don't, if i tried to take my best stab at why that is I would probably say "consistency"


honestly this is the kind of thing i'd expect from a teenage deviantart user who doens't like their favorite shiny big eyes kawaii animu artist w/ bad technical skills being critiqued and not what i expect from you kori u_u

you realize she just said that the piece wasnt "good art" simply because the anatomy was off, right? im not saying anatomy is completely worthless, in most pieces it has some merit, but jesus christ. jeeesus christ. for instance, the style in that piece is very cute, the colors are nice and soothing, the idea is very adorale... BUT HOLY FUCK THE ANATOMY'S OFF!!!!! CALL THE POLICE 911 911 911. makes no sense.

Gnostic WetFart Wrote:kori, no offense, you're a rad guy but this is kind of dumb. this is an incredibly weak defense: you're saying that simply by being "art" (as if art is a quality in and of itself, which i disagree with) its immune to anatomical critique? thats kind of only really true if art is immune to any form of critique, purely because it's "art". do you believe that is true?

the reason anatomy is important is because art is about expression, and representation. representation of ideas and concepts - but if these ideas aren't represented well, if the execution does not do the concept justice, then it is bad art.

anatomy is a part of this. if the anatomy, or the proportions, do not properly reflect what they are supposed too, then they are bad. it is also for this very reason that sometimes extravagant or exaggerated proportions are good - because they better represent or express the kind of ideas that the work is supposed too.

everything in a piece of art should have a reason, or a purpose; anything that genuinely does not, or contradicts or inhibits the expression of the piece at large is a flaw (naturally the latter more so than the former). simply put, "bad" anatomy is a flaw.

alright, i can kind of see where you're coming from. but, here's the thing: Quote, that other bitch and the dog are fictional characters. even in the game they dont have perfect anatomy, so why should that be different out-of-context? and even if they did have bad anatomy, should your whole opinion of the piece be based off of that? no, you look at the piece as a whole and base it off of many different things. one flaw doesn't make the piece bad. even the mona lisa isn't perfect.


also, yeah, i know complaining about this makes me seem like a whining little kid on deviantart, but honestly it's just getting on my last nerve when she wants every single piece to be completely anatomically correct. sure, anatomy is great, woop-dee-frick-do, but don't push your opinion on others like it's 100% right every single time. good job, you learned anatomy, use it in your art and stop making everyone else feel like they have to be absolutely perfect.

(http://santa-dad.deviantart.com/
http://lavinayelb.deviantart.com/
http://penguinguy.deviantart.com/
http://md-rocket.deviantart.com/

^^^^ ALL BAD ART BECAUSE THE ANATOMY ISNT 100% PERFECT ^^^^)

(06-26-2010, 03:34 PM)STRAIGHT CHILLIN 86 Wrote: (http://santa-dad.deviantart.com/
http://lavinayelb.deviantart.com/
http://penguinguy.deviantart.com/
http://md-rocket.deviantart.com/

^^^^ ALL BAD ART BECAUSE THE ANATOMY ISNT 100% PERFECT ^^^^)

This is the only part of your post, or this entire conversation for that matter, that I've read - but honestly I don't care for any of those.

I dunno; the really good submissions on those accounts aren't of people or are entirely abstract. That last one just has a really awkward drawing style.

but does their lack of completely correct anatomy make it bad art?

(06-26-2010, 03:01 PM)Baegal Wrote:

I'm pretty sure the main reason it's hurting is because your spine split in half and exploded in several key areas.

Part of me would be reluctant to call it 'art' over 'illustration'. They're ok-to-pretty likeable illustrations.

http://md-rocket.deviantart.com/

Quote:i sabotage myself in every way at school endeavors
its starting
to make me
massively depressed

Butch Wrote:This is the only part of your post, or this entire conversation for that matter, that I've read - but honestly I don't care for any of those.

okay

(06-26-2010, 04:42 PM)GrooveMan.exe Wrote: Part of me would be reluctant to call it 'art' over 'illustration'. They're ok-to-pretty likeable illustrations.

so, therefore, it's not bad art. it's ok-to-pretty likeable art. :- )

all in all, there's a difference between anatomy being apart of your overall judgement of a piece and letting it be the only thing you're using as your judgement of a piece. it's like saying ren and stimpy (which i know zeemort likes (or at least respect john k)) is full of bad art just because the anatomy is shit. makes no sense.

alright alright, i did a little bit of thinking and ive decided that

idgaf

i shouldn't rain on zeemort's parade just because she wants everyone to be an amazing perfect artist. that's kind of admirable, even. im still going to have the opinion that she should shut the fuck up about it, but im going to shut the fuck up about all this too. aside from the anatomy thing, you're a great gal zeemort; don't think that just because im yelling at you that i hate you or anything. you're probably one of my favorite posters even lol. also sorry for shitting up your topic, person who made this topic.

here's some bad art: