i hate how people think you get mad when your clearly just telling the truth in a "sort of angry way" on the internet.

Quote: I was aware you were but that wasn't an attack at you but those who feel they ought express unintelligent opinions. It's why I quoted feminist as in I do not believe my friend truly understands what one is. Please believe I find nothing wrong with feminism and expressing a problem but there was none, and she seems to feel a need to express it constantly.

you're not complaining about feminism: you're complaining about idiocy. feminism is the context, not the source, not the problem.

this goes for you too, flannel, you're doing basically the same thing

old people

(07-10-2010, 06:58 PM)Sambo Wrote: I dislike people who say "it's just a word"

but it is
therefore, i use it as a synonym for stupid

I like people who say "it's just a word," except when it's taken too far.

Was that an attempt at a troll?
If so its not really funny :I

Okay, now I will explain why using gay as a pejorative is a bad thing.

Yes, gay did initially mean "happy", but words change. Lesbian originally referred to an inhabitant of Lesvos.
Gay has however evolved to mean homosexual. It's just a descriptor. It's not like there's some cabal of gay men who went "I know what'd piss off those breeders, lets make gay mean what we want it to, BWAHAHAHA!"
Its first use is thought to have been somewhere in the 30s so you're not going to see that changing any time soon, brah.

But the use of the word gay as a pejorative is directly as a result from its use to describe homosexuals. The implication is that being gay is a bad thing.
It's the same way it's not very nice to use the word "retarded" or "lame" (which I'm really guilty of and I'm trying to address!), it's making a value judgment on a group of people by using it as an insult.

Saying "HEY GAY MEANS HAPPY THOSE GAYS HAVE RUINED IT" is fucking... I don't even know. It makes you sound tremendously privileged, for one thing. The "words have all the power you give them!" is a very poor argument. The meaning and the intention of words are a powerful thing.

COOL STORY, BRO:
I have some friends who are gay (this is relevant). I've been described as an honorary dyke by some of my friends, and when they say it, it's nice, because it's an in-joke that's just kind of become part of our vernacular.
Being called a dyke by a stranger at school (this happened with alarming regularity, my school ruled!), is kind of a different thing.
Especially when it's accompanied by threats to "straighten you out", or having dog shit thrown at your head!

I hate using the word "gay" to describe something lame/shitty/etc, but at the same time it's habitual and I'm trying to break that habit. ):

I WENT TO PUBLIC SCHOOL SO IT'S NOT THAT EASY

I dislike the vague yet ever present expected social standards for black and gay people; and that I have to constantly keep up an air of "oh yeah, it doesn't bother me at all, whateverrrr" when largely it's either a non-issue or something that doesn't need to be brought up.

At the same time I heavily dislike myself for occasionally displaying said social standards, and I would quite happily take a potato peeler to my soul to strip away the facets of me I really can't stand.





Oh yeah, and I dislike how I'm bad at videogames. Irony isn't funny. =|

(07-12-2010, 03:02 AM)Flannel_Bastard Wrote: Was that an attempt at a troll?
If so its not really funny :I

yes..............i was ''''''trolling''''''' fuck u,

I dislike misuse of the word "troll"
And also when I am viewing this forum and only the header loads AGH WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN sooo much


also, losing is the best part of video games.

(07-11-2010, 09:12 PM)Gnostic WetFart Wrote:

Quote: I was aware you were but that wasn't an attack at you but those who feel they ought express unintelligent opinions. It's why I quoted feminist as in I do not believe my friend truly understands what one is. Please believe I find nothing wrong with feminism and expressing a problem but there was none, and she seems to feel a need to express it constantly.

you're not complaining about feminism: you're complaining about idiocy. feminism is the context, not the source, not the problem.

this goes for you too, flannel, you're doing basically the same thing

Wait, so am I still in the wrong? or is this you acknowledging my apology and seeing where the real problem lay? Because your right I hate idiots who pretend things they are not, and cause social unrest under that "title" validating their say, or at least trying to.

I also hate how hard it is to find a full-time summer job now. Like holy hell who's HP do I gotta heal to get a job around here? (Canada)

(07-12-2010, 12:09 PM)Djanjo Wrote:

(07-11-2010, 09:12 PM)Gnostic WetFart Wrote:

Quote: I was aware you were but that wasn't an attack at you but those who feel they ought express unintelligent opinions. It's why I quoted feminist as in I do not believe my friend truly understands what one is. Please believe I find nothing wrong with feminism and expressing a problem but there was none, and she seems to feel a need to express it constantly.

you're not complaining about feminism: you're complaining about idiocy. feminism is the context, not the source, not the problem.

this goes for you too, flannel, you're doing basically the same thing

Wait, so am I still in the wrong? or is this you acknowledging my apology and seeing where the real problem lay? Because your right I hate idiots who pretend things they are not, and cause social unrest under that "title" validating their say, or at least trying to.

I also hate how hard it is to find a full-time summer job now. Like holy hell who's HP do I gotta heal to get a job around here? (Canada)

i think he's kind of just restating/thoroughly explaining to be sure, that it's not feminism that's the problem in your situation, it's people being dumb, not really saying you're wrong or something per se

i dislike what i like

(07-12-2010, 09:22 AM)Alpha Six Wrote: I hate using the word "gay" to describe something lame/shitty/etc, but at the same time it's habitual and I'm trying to break that habit. ):

I WENT TO PUBLIC SCHOOL SO IT'S NOT THAT EASY

I used to use gay as lame, etc a lto when I was in highschool and when I tried to fix it I went down a huge list before I found somehting acceptable.
gay - offensive
lame - offensive
retarded - offensive
stupid - offensive
dumb - offensive
etc etc etc
When it came down to it the only word I could find that wasn't somewhat offensive was "dissapointing"

Quote:i think he's kind of just restating/thoroughly explaining to be sure, that it's not feminism that's the problem in your situation, it's people being dumb, not really saying you're wrong or something per se

he's wrong in focusing on "feminism" because that isn't the issue, i guess