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(10-24-2014, 02:08 PM)Fool in the Sky of Diamonds Wrote: Oh for fucks sake are we still going on about this?

Honestly, this is just stupid. It's like everyone has to bash the 3DS version just because we didn't get a few characters that could have been playable. Just because technical limitations of the 3DS meant that we couldn't have Ice Climbers, Ridley, or whomever else because of it is just dumb.

I get that Ridley was a huge request to be a playable character but at the same time, the quality of the game is what matters in the long run. In this case it's two full games that create an expanded game over all.

(10-24-2014, 02:08 PM)Fool in the Sky of Diamonds Wrote: It's basically a metagame between two versions. So why complain?

(10-24-2014, 02:08 PM)Fool in the Sky of Diamonds Wrote: Would you want to have a completely laggy game with a shit ton of features in comparison to a game that plays smoothly and is able to deliver the same enjoyment at the sake of some small things that are cut out from both versions?

(10-24-2014, 02:08 PM)Fool in the Sky of Diamonds Wrote: I'd rather see some content cut out of the game than have to play a game that constantly slows down all the time.

(10-24-2014, 11:07 PM)Koopaul Wrote: What's so cool about splitting the content between two games and holding back on potentially more?

(10-24-2014, 11:07 PM)Koopaul Wrote: How does having two games expand anything? Everything except Smash Run is in the Wii U version plus more. Besides Smash Run (which could have been on the Wii U too) what did 3DS give us that the Wii U couldn't?
It' wouldn't slow down because the 3DS version wouldn't exist! DUH! If we didn't have a 3DS version the only thing that would be sacrificed is... it's not portable, boohoo. If there was no 3DS version we'd have everything they worked on for two games on ONE game that also runs smoothly, has the Ice Climbers, and possibly more!

The 3DS version was a bad idea. Nothing about it helped. What's so cool about splitting the content between two games and holding back on potentially more?

(10-25-2014, 01:44 AM)Sportoise Wrote: And I'll say it again, the Ice Climbers getting cut was a good thing. I know you're gung-ho about them because they're an old series, but the fact you don't hate the fuckers shows that you have obviously never played against a good Ice Climbers. If you had, you'd hate them. 

(10-25-2014, 01:44 AM)Sportoise Wrote: Koops, you're ignoring the fact that if there wasn't the 3DS version, we wouldn't even be having a discussion over Smash 4 right now. Sakurai wanted to make a portable Smash, Nintendo had to beg him to make the Wii U one. I mean, portable Smash is a pretty big frickin deal. And I'll say it again, the Ice Climbers getting cut was a good thing. I know you're gung-ho about them because they're an old series, but the fact you don't hate the fuckers shows that you have obviously never played against a good Ice Climbers. If you had, you'd hate them. 

(10-25-2014, 02:22 AM)Iceman404 Wrote:

(10-25-2014, 01:44 AM)Sportoise Wrote: And I'll say it again, the Ice Climbers getting cut was a good thing. I know you're gung-ho about them because they're an old series, but the fact you don't hate the fuckers shows that you have obviously never played against a good Ice Climbers. If you had, you'd hate them. 

Yeah... 
I'm just gonna have to pop in and say this is a moot point, considering grabs have a 1 second in-between delay in Smash 4.

this post is a post on progress because of quoting system and phones

(10-25-2014, 03:03 AM)Kriven Wrote: How is "Ice Climbers were broken" even an argument when one of Sm4sh's selling points is balancing?

More so, why is it bad to include a character that is just for casual fun?

(10-25-2014, 02:57 AM)Koopaul Wrote: Sportoise

Anyway it still doesn't change the fact that a 3DS Smash was a bad idea. Even if there wasn't a Wii U version I'd still complain... probably even more! A fourth generation Smash game needs the proper power. And I still don't see the "big frickin deal" of a portable Smash. Smash is not a game I want to play on a bus ride, it's a game I want to play in a room full of my buds and a box of pizza. As much as tourney people hate to hear it, Smash really is a good party game.

As for Ice Climbers... I don't care about them myself, but many others do. They've been in two games already and that's a good enough reason to keep them around. I mostly bring up the Ice Climbers as proof that a 3DS game was holding Sakurai back on making an even better Smash game. Something that I always worried about.

(10-25-2014, 03:09 AM)Koopaul Wrote: Well whatever. Sakurai has his priorities and I don't agree with them. If we had Ridley and a new Donkey Kong character, you wouldn't hear a peep from me. That's all I needed.

Quote:Metagaming is any strategy, action or method used in a game which transcends a prescribed ruleset, uses external factors to affect the game, or goes beyond the supposed limits or environment set by the game. Another definition refers to the game universe outside of the game itself.

In simple terms, it is the use of out-of-game information or resources to affect one's in-game decision

(10-25-2014, 02:57 AM)Koopaul Wrote: As much as tourney people hate to hear it, Smash really is a good party game.

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AND they sneaked  a fragment of yet unknown size of an adventure mode into classic mode in the form of Master fortress. It could a big as hyrule maze from melee as far as we know!