Sounds unique actually, except anyone can pick it up, but it makes it crack open faster, but moving doesn't speed it up or something.

Idk where I'm going with this, so that sentence is probably messed up

I say Lucas should have PK Ground! I dont know why but I think Lucas and Ness should only have moves from there game, like give Ness 4th D slip or something.

But... Earthbound doesn't even have 4th D Slip. Ninten learned that move and he's in Mother. But I get what you're saying. Dunno if Lucas should have PK Ground though.

Luigi's Intro should be: jumping out from a tornado, while playing the warp whistle tune from SMB3 at the same time.
You know, like he uses the whistle to warp to the area/stage?

I think Luigis intro i fine the way Smash had it. Coming out of a tornado will look too much like Links intro. Also, we will need the sfx of the warp whistle to play as he enters.

I think Lucarios Up+B (ExtremeSpeed) should be more effective than Pikachus Up+B (Quick Attack). In the Pokemon games, ExtremeSpeed was much faster and stronger than Quick Attack, but Pikachu can go faster, hurt the enemy, and travel in two different directions. Could that be revamped?

Exactly.
And another thing, I think ExtremeSpeed should be able to go completely sideways, without having to do an arc.

He already can. but you have to be fast.

That doesn't mean we can't be different. I'm sure there are alot of people out there who are kind of sick of Luigi being Mario's clone.

Quote:Luigi's Down B should be changed IMO. Maybe an evasive attack, such as the Tannooki Statue from SMB3?

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Less Clone Luigi. MOAR New Luigi!!!

Luigi hasn't been Mario's clone since Melee. Brawl only furthered that.

don't change luigi's down b, its hella useful and fun and its not the same as mario's anyway so there's really no point
edit: oh yeah and tanuki (or however you spell it) not only has nothing to do with luigi but it would be fucking useless, it just sounds like metaknight's down b but without the counter or evasiveness.

^this, that item is useless. Maybe if we added a lightning affect to the Luigi Cyclone, then it would be even more unique.

unique compared to what? itself?

It is more unique due to the fact that it is basically the same move, performed my Mario with different buttons and something else, which I can't remember, but it doesn't make a huge difference. Think of it like the super jump punch, What we could do is if luigi was close enough to an opponent, that the electricity involves more damage taken, and the electricity spans out a little, so if someone is close to him, but not close enough to get into the cyclone, they will get electrocuted. That's a lot more unique than just some raccoon luigi stone move, in which you would need the powerup to do so, and don't try to pull the "than how does Mario/Luigi make fire without a fireflower" it's called M&L superstar saga, not to sound rude...if I did. I don't see the raccoon luigi stone thing happening, that would be like Kirby...

Despite the fact the Luigi is almost a complete clone of Mario.

Anyway, can I remind you that Kirby makes his name by being other people (Hello? standard B move?). Anyway, there are lots of characters that have clones of other characters from other series.

Like Captain Falcon and Ganondorf, which was a topic I was hoping to come to.
Should Ganon get rid of being a clone once and for all and use his sword, or stay with his fists (Fisticuffs!)?
And if he stays with his fists, I think we should lower the knockback of his neutral A attack.
Seriously, it's aggravating, whether you're playing with or against him.