Sony has lost over $3 billion on the PS3

[DioShiba]

Are there any other businesses that do that sort of product pricing, or is the gaming industry the only one who sells a main product at a loss to make it up with additional products?

Not sure, but if there were any it would probably be computers maybe.

Anyways this was obvious from the start, Sony needs to stop overlooking things. They should have realized it when the PS2 Came out. I am no sider, I prefer to remain neutral but god damn Sony needs to wake up... And I highly doubt it is just the production prices, they occasionally did push there advertising too much far as I saw. Anyways if there gonig to make a video game system THEN TRY NOT TO MAKE A HUGE MISTAKE.

After this huge spike, I doubt sony is going to continue after this, if so then it won't be for very long, also they definately need to stop giving away money to other companies. Once third party developers realize this there going to start to make there games for other companies. also bookmarking page to show my real life folks for kicks, there 100% Nintendo and Microsoft fans like I am.

[Raytheon]

I am no sider

there 100% Nintendo and Microsoft fans like I am.

CONTRADICTION

[Sho_"Rocker"_Daisuke]

aw man, I'm a Sony fan, and if they pull out of the vg race next generation, I'm only going to have Nintendo.

or maybe it will be like the PS2 and become big towards the end, but still, that's probably not good enough, how long do you think you can keep pulling through at the end?

[Phantom Killah]

I am no sider

there 100% Nintendo and Microsoft fans like I am.

CONTRADICTION

I was gonna do that : (

but anyways I don't think 3 billion is really that big of a deal for a massive company like Sony and they'll probably make all of the money back in the long run anyways.

[A Hacked Soul]

Well to tell you the truth I think the PS3 has some future, just not for normal gaming.
I see it being used for Homebrew and other stuff.
By then Sony will be make soem off of it like the PSP.

[Angelglory]

Sony had a lot going for it :<

Ah well.

Huzzah for us Wii60 fans
o/

It's just mean to leave somebody hangin'.

\o

[DioShiba]

I am no sider

there 100% Nintendo and Microsoft fans like I am.

CONTRADICTION

Yeah maybe I should have rephrased that, but whatever.

Anyways it's true i'm Nintensoft man, no more hiding my neutalality losses, the only i have lost intrest in sony's PS3 in the years cause they always overprice things.

[balladofwindfishes]

other then the hefty price tag, I really don't see the audience Sony appeals to... XBox has a huge following with the older, hardened, vet gamers and the teenagers who want tol be cool by playing a game with guns, and then Nintendo has the kids, the casuals and the die hard fans it's had for 2 decades. Sony doesn't fall into a market really. The market the PSP is "geared towards" are people who don't pay for games anyway, and the PS3 is trying to be against the XBox, which overall has the lasting market appeal, and now the games that Sony used to have are jumping ship, or in Square's case, are moving back to their older ways of making games. I'm curious as to what console the next true Final Fantasy game will be on, because Metal Gear Solid 4 can only take the company so far... especially with it's "M" rating and general appeal to a limited audience.

People may say bad things about XBox's use of violence or Nintendo's use of casuals, but at least they have their markets, and they know how to get sales using those markets. Their consoles are affordable and offer a quality expirience with plenty of exclusives and high quality games. Sony is somewhat stuck not knowing who to go after. And when you can buy 2 different consoles for a little over the price of a Sony, you can either really really want to play Metal Gear 4 or you can get two different systems that will bring you vastly different appeals. Sony will need more then MGS4, especially when they lost GTA, and possibly Square.

[DioShiba]

other then the hefty price tag, I really don't see the audience Sony appeals to... XBox has a huge following with the older, hardened, vet gamers and the teenagers who want tol be cool by playing a game with guns, and then Nintendo has the kids, the casuals and the die hard fans it's had for 2 decades. Sony doesn't fall into a market really. The market the PSP is "geared towards" are people who don't pay for games anyway, and the PS3 is trying to be against the XBox, which overall has the lasting market appeal, and now the games that Sony used to have are jumping ship, or in Square's case, are moving back to their older ways of making games. I'm curious as to what console the next true Final Fantasy game will be on, because Metal Gear Solid 4 can only take the company so far... especially with it's "M" rating and general appeal to a limited audience.

People may say bad things about XBox's use of violence or Nintendo's use of casuals, but at least they have their markets, and they know how to get sales using those markets. Their consoles are affordable and offer a quality expirience with plenty of exclusives and high quality games. Sony is somewhat stuck not knowing who to go after. And when you can buy 2 different consoles for a little over the price of a Sony, you can either really really want to play Metal Gear 4 or you can get two different systems that will bring you vastly different appeals. Sony will need more then MGS4, especially when they lost GTA, and possibly Square.

Forgetting Resistance 2?

But ether way it won't matter. Eventually Konami will realize PS3 isn't doing so well and might eventually port there games to 360 or Wii, Or possibly they sell there console to Sega, but who really knows what will happen, I am ususally neutral through bissiness wise traits.

As for the other stuff in your post I agree, considering that Nintendo has been out since 1980 and Sony has been in the video game bissiness for only like 10-15 years, Microsoft just got into the video game bissiness and there knowing more what to do unlike Sony.

EDIT: For those of you confused by what I meant by my first statment, Sony is eventually gonna lose resistance.

[Alex]

How would they lose Resistence? Isn't Insomniac a first or second party dev?

[Maxpphire]

Are there any other businesses that do that sort of product pricing, or is the gaming industry the only one who sells a main product at a loss to make it up with additional products?

Some brands of cameras do. Like the ones you need to buy film for. They make most of their money off of the film.

Anyway if more and better games are being made for cheaper and better consoles I think I'd rather go with the better ones personally.