GAMER LOUNGE 20XX (NO CASUALS!!)

[Kriven]

It doesn't matter what Nintendo would appreciate, they aren't law makers. And they never should be. When you start writing laws to appease corporations, you are effectively dooming your economy.

And neither should it be huritng Nintendo's loyal customers. Nintendo did not give the item to resellers... they gave the item to a distribution network and established a price. What individuals choose to do with Nintendo's items does not in any way reflect on Nintendo as a business. If somebody is going to judge Nintendo based on the actions of an unaffiliated third-party... that person is a fool. And again, it does not matter what Nintendo wants people to do with their items. That is a moot point in conversation of legality. As is whether you would personally want to buy something from an individual seller. That is your prerogative, not a court's.

Nintendo doesn't need profits from second-hand sales--they made their projected profits on the initial sale. As far as Nintendo is concerned, their product sold out and they recovered their funds.

Is it really a bad thing to purchase items you know will give you an edge later on? After all, you can use the money from that game to buy more games. It fits within the established arena of the white market and is a victimless action (You legally purchased the item, you legally sold the item, you did not beat people with a cane to get the item, you did not hold a gun to their head to make them buy the item). As far as I can see, it takes one sale which profits the manufacturers and retailers, creates another sale which profits the reseller who then uses that money to purchase more items from other resellers, retailers and manufacturers. I see one item generating a reveue stream and keeping money circulating. That's usually a good thing.

[E-Man]

I see your point. It's just that what Mariotehplumber did left a bad taste in my mouth.

[Goemar]

Still think it's rather immoral. I mean some poor kid is probably missing out on this just so somebody can make a couple of quid. I have nothing against selling collectable items, but buying them before they are even out with the sole intent to sell it before you even have it - urgh, kinda shitty. Obviously has nothing to do with Nintendo but, I dunno, I'd feel bad for doing it anyway.

[Kriven]

Well, I'm not going to argue whether it's moral or not, motivated by greed or not. I just don't think it should be illegal.

[E-Man]

Even though there is nothing anyone can do to make this action illegal, is it at least possible for Nintendo or anyone else to legally discourage this kind of activity?

[Kriven]

Not in a way that isn't any less morally reprehensible.

Edit: They could stop releasing items in such limited quantity, but that would mean they would personally miss out on the revenue generated by creating highly sought after "collector's" items. They could not create those items at all, but who wants that?

I should also note that any item explicitly calling itself a "collector's" edition is marketing itself to an audience that hoards and resells goods at inflated values. Manufacturers do this intentionally because it guarantees sales.

[TomGuycott]

What bothers me about it is how stuff is selling out literally minutes after it is announced (Seriously, I jumped on several different websites as that offered the Majora's Mask 3DS seconds after I saw the reveal). That would be fine, if you didn't find posts and gloating from resellers and scalpers who are going to mark up the price like 200%.

That article about the guy hoarding Rosalina amiibo is a decent example, but amiibo are going to be easier for Nintendo to turn around and decide that it is alright to put a couple hundred more back in the production line. Limited runs of a 200 dollar console, however, are probably NOT going to get that same kind of treatment unless demand for them becomes astronomical (Which it may. After all, it sold out in seconds).


I'll probably wait a week and see if they still have the Monster Hunter ones available. I am actually a fan of that one, and the game comes pre-installed on the system. While I am usually a fan of actual carts and discs, there are some games I kind of wish I could just pop on without even having a cart in, and Monster Hunter is one of them.

[Gwen]

Don't care if it's technically legal or not, people who pull this shit are scumbags. When the same thing happened to The Ocean's special edition release of their latest album, they chewed out people they found on the internet gouging people for it and rereleased the fuck out of it.

[AuraLancer]

Yeah, I wanted that Majora's Mask N3DS. It was sold out before the direct even ended, I had no chance whatsoever. Oh, but you can find them all over ebay with jacked up prices. Those asshats aren't getting my money though.

[Kriven]

Does anybody else miss how colorful controllers used to be? Everything was a different color on the N64 and GCN. You had the red buttons, the green and blue A buttons, the yellow C-Buttons/Stick....

Even the SNES had colors in most regions!

Now everything is just the same color as the controller base.

I miss colors.

[Vipershark]

That may be so, but would Nintendo appreciate these kinds of unreasonable unofficial transactions?

You do realize that these people are buying the 3DSes from Nintendo, right?
Meaning that Nintendo profits off of every single one of them?

Nintendo is a business. Their objective is profit. Doing this gets them a lot of profit, really quickly.
What people choose to do with the items they legally purchase whether they choose to play it, sell it, or hoard it for years untouched in a box is none of Nintendo's business whatsoever. They already got their money for each and every one of those 3DSes that was bought, and the result would have been no different whether scalpers bought them to resell or a different individual person bought each unit. The amount of money Nintendo sees is the same regardless.

A customer is a customer.

You can argue about how moral it is for the scalpers to do what they do all day long but Nintendo has nothing to do with what happens with their products after the product leaves the store.
If they were truly that concerned about "devoted fans" not getting the 3DS because there aren't enough of them out there, they'd release more.

[Vipershark]

Does anybody else miss how colorful controllers used to be? Everything was a different color on the N64 and GCN. You had the red buttons, the green and blue A buttons, the yellow C-Buttons/Stick....

Even the SNES had colors in most regions!

Now everything is just the same color as the controller base.

I miss colors.

uhhhhh



Nintendo is the only one of the big 3 that doesn't use colors on its buttons anymore.
Even the xbox one controller still has colored buttons.

[Kriven]

Does anybody else miss how colorful controllers used to be? Everything was a different color on the N64 and GCN. You had the red buttons, the green and blue A buttons, the yellow C-Buttons/Stick....

Even the SNES had colors in most regions!

Now everything is just the same color as the controller base.

I miss colors.

uhhhhh



Nintendo is the only one of the big 3 that doesn't use colors on its buttons anymore.
Even the xbox one controller still has colored buttons.

The 360 was the last controller to really use colors in the way that I man, with the whole button actually being the color. And even that only has the four face buttons colored. The sticks are just such a typical black shade. XBone/PlayStation does have colors going on with the symbols and letters, but the button itself is just the base color. You can't look at those and tell me they're anywhere near as colorful as:





Even the areas of the controllers (especially the SNES one) that aren't wearing mating colors have distinct regions.

[E-Man]

You do realize that these people are buying the 3DSes from Nintendo, right?

Even though Nintendo is getting money all the same...

I also figured after reading the other posts that Nintendo could rerelease any product in case the demand becomes too much. I was mostly venting about how I am sick of all the recent scalping going on with Nintendo's products (and the Rosalina Amiibo situation didn't help that at all).

[Marth]

Kriven I'll be honest, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Maybe it's really obvious and I'm just that tired but can you try explaining it a different way? I see no real difference in colour at all between the Nintendo controllers you posted vs. what Viper posted. Nintendo seems to be the only one who doesn't do that these days although they do offer skins for the wii u game pad that are reminiscent of the snes controller (at least I think they do/did). Nintendo went for a more minimalist look like Apple has if anything but they haven't completely done away with it. Microsoft and Sony seem to still have plenty colourful controllers at least to me.