Miles art thread

[MilesTheCreator]

I saw people making threads about their arts and I did mine cuz y not?

I will begin with this pic.

(I used pencil brush.)

[MilesTheCreator]

Drew this yesterday but I fixed some things in the pic today.

I think this is enough front-looking figures for now, will draw different angles sometime later. (and maybe will try to draw realistic humans!)

[Kosheh]

This is definitely an improvement from your art in the past, but there's one thing that's bugging me. Anyone can put clothes on a mannequin.
(I do have to commend you on giving the boy sharper features and the girl more rounded ones, though. I still have trouble with this and my men come out looking really feminine)

Part of breaking out an artist is breaking out of your comfort zone. It's like eating sushi for the first time - there's a whole menu of sushi out there, but most people just stick with California rolls and consider that "adventurous"
(I don't know if that's a thing where you live, but it's a maki roll containing cucumber, imitation crab, and avocado. In America, this is what most people consider "sushi")
Front-facing people is the California roll of art. Everybody does it, and it's pretty easy.
Alternatively, if the phrase "baby steps" means to take very small risks to avoid damage control, you're shuffling your feet, lol. Like...you're starting out way too simple here.

If it's any relief, most people here on VGR cannot draw a realistic person (or even cartoon) without some frame of reference. Looking at a picture and drawing it, or drawing from life isn't cheating by any means. I feel like you probably? used a reference to draw the girl character's hair - and that's fine - but feel free to use a reference to draw the rest of the body, or a pose that you like.

What I'm saying is
* Kosheh digs into your other thread, pulls out image to make a point

This exercise means nothing if you don't understand how the circles work together to form a human figure.

Move those balls on strings around and create some interesting poses!

Take that drawing exercise with the balls on strings and move them around to a pose you find on Google, or from an art book, or from life. The purpose of that exercise is to understand the very basics of how to draw a person. If you want to just draw balls on strings for a little while so you get the hang of what they're supposed to do, that's fine - but realize those balls are meant to represent joints or an important part of the body, and this all should click into place quicker than you might realize.

** Also, I just realized looking at your ball exercise and how you draw. You're probably doing this in Photoshop. Make that blue ball-on-strings figure a layer in Photoshop, and then draw your person over that layer.
You're probably doing that already though but I figured I'd mention it just in case it didn't occur to you lol

[DioShiba]

Question to OP: do we really need three threads for each question you have?

Not trying to be mean on this but it is kind of unnecessary to make a new thread for every new thing when you can update the ones you've already made =/.

[MilesTheCreator]

Question to OP: do we really need three threads for each question you have?

Not trying to be mean on this but it is kind of unnecessary to make a new thread for every new thing when you can update the ones you've already made =/.

I am not making anymore new threads! I will only update this thread.

[MilesTheCreator]

This is definitely an improvement from your art in the past, but there's one thing that's bugging me. Anyone can put clothes on a mannequin.
(I do have to commend you on giving the boy sharper features and the girl more rounded ones, though. I still have trouble with this and my men come out looking really feminine)

Part of breaking out an artist is breaking out of your comfort zone. It's like eating sushi for the first time - there's a whole menu of sushi out there, but most people just stick with California rolls and consider that "adventurous"
(I don't know if that's a thing where you live, but it's a maki roll containing cucumber, imitation crab, and avocado. In America, this is what most people consider "sushi")
Front-facing people is the California roll of art. Everybody does it, and it's pretty easy.
Alternatively, if the phrase "baby steps" means to take very small risks to avoid damage control, you're shuffling your feet, lol. Like...you're starting out way too simple here.

If it's any relief, most people here on VGR cannot draw a realistic person (or even cartoon) without some frame of reference. Looking at a picture and drawing it, or drawing from life isn't cheating by any means. I feel like you probably? used a reference to draw the girl character's hair - and that's fine - but feel free to use a reference to draw the rest of the body, or a pose that you like.

What I'm saying is
* Kosheh digs into your other thread, pulls out image to make a point

This exercise means nothing if you don't understand how the circles work together to form a human figure.

Move those balls on strings around and create some interesting poses!

Take that drawing exercise with the balls on strings and move them around to a pose you find on Google, or from an art book, or from life. The purpose of that exercise is to understand the very basics of how to draw a person. If you want to just draw balls on strings for a little while so you get the hang of what they're supposed to do, that's fine - but realize those balls are meant to represent joints or an important part of the body, and this all should click into place quicker than you might realize.

** Also, I just realized looking at your ball exercise and how you draw. You're probably doing this in Photoshop. Make that blue ball-on-strings figure a layer in Photoshop, and then draw your person over that layer.
You're probably doing that already though but I figured I'd mention it just in case it didn't occur to you lol

1. This is not Photoshop, I drew this in Sketchbook Pro (it can produce .PSD files though!)

2. I did try to make an interesting pose before but someone tells me that I am not ready to draw such complex poses. EDIT: You know what? I will do it again. It won't hurt to do it.

3. I actually used a reference but I admit that I only used one.

4. I will consider taking your points, thank you very much!

5. I do draw the person over the figure layer.

[MilesTheCreator]

It's a meeeeee!

(I really should work more on proportions though!)

EDIT: The body looks like a brick. I will update the pic tomorrow.

[Gors]

better than updating pics is studying, and you are not studying shit

go eyeball real life people, not cartoons. Stop drawing cartoons for now. Focus on real life.

"But gors i don't plan to make real life art anyway, why even botheri--"

This is a terrible misconception when making art. I might be making lots of cartoon art myself, but I also do have realistic art attempts under my belt. Why is it important to learn, you might be asking.

Every cartoon style has developed from real life drawings, and it is the yardstick for every stylized thing you do. Once you learn and understand how anatomy in real life works, you may apply stylizations in order to make it faster/easier/interesting to look at. But for now you really need this experience.

It is boring, yeah, maybe it could be. It is certainly difficult to study and learn posing from real life models and pictures, but no one said that studying art concepts is easy. You have to treat it as a school subject like anything else, pick at least 1 or 2 hours to draw real life stuff, grab a real paper and pencil and try again.

[MilesTheCreator]

better than updating pics is studying, and you are not studying shit

go eyeball real life people, not cartoons. Stop drawing cartoons for now. Focus on real life.

"But gors i don't plan to make real life art anyway, why even botheri--"

This is a terrible misconception when making art. I might be making lots of cartoon art myself, but I also do have realistic art attempts under my belt. Why is it important to learn, you might be asking.

Every cartoon style has developed from real life drawings, and it is the yardstick for every stylized thing you do. Once you learn and understand how anatomy in real life works, you may apply stylizations in order to make it faster/easier/interesting to look at. But for now you really need this experience.

It is boring, yeah, maybe it could be. It is certainly difficult to study and learn posing from real life models and pictures, but no one said that studying art concepts is easy. You have to treat it as a school subject like anything else, pick at least 1 or 2 hours to draw real life stuff, grab a real paper and pencil and try again.

I never said drawing real life people is boring.
But yeah, okay, I will try to do that!

EDIT: I think I know what's the real problem. I was being impatient and am updating the post too soon! I will put a new pic when I am satisfied on how it turned out.
(Traditional drawings have always been a trouble for me, I'll look into that.)

[MilesTheCreator]

"What the hell!? I told you to stop drawing cartoons and draw real life persons. You're not gonna learn anything this way!!!!! >:/"

Yeah..... Allow me to explain!
I've been studying anatomy for the past few days and seems like I can't continue because my final exams is arriving soon. So I applied on what I've learned so far, I will continue practicing in June 2017. (I've been drawing on papers all this time).


EDIT: This gotta be the most awkward reply I ever did!

[DioShiba]

While I get that real life tends to get in the way, I can not stress the importance of understanding anatomy enough and as with your other pieces, this piece suffers from the issues you have made previously. Rather than repeat those same criticisms however, I have to take a step back and question how serious you are about improving yourself as an artist, with all do respect.

Here's my advice to you if the options are readily available: Take some art classes, Make yourself the time to study art if you are serious about cartooning or any other field utilizing art as skills. Haven't taken any in high school? you can always take some classes on the side as electives when you go to college should they offer some entry level courses. I think you'll get better guidance from a teacher or a professor who has the basic understanding of the ethics and skills you need to develop.

Because frankly, it would be pointless to repeat the same criticisms we told you just because you wish to use life as an excuse (and I'm not saying this in a mean way, mind you). And sure you can respond to us every time we post and update this thread all you want but you risk repeating the same mistakes over and over again and you are just going to frustrate yourself, and as a result the people who wish to help you. Until then I see no reason why most of us should continue to try to critique you when you already know where your problems are. But I think where your problem is lies in the work ethic that you present to us, and that can end up being a serious mistake for beginner artists.

[MilesTheCreator]

You know what's the most serious problem? This bad habit: "WOW, THIS TOOK ME SO LONG, I MUST SHARE IT TO THE WORLD!!!"
I really should stop this.






i don't even know why i replied earlier when i could get back to the thread anytime

[DioShiba]

There are other things I could point out to you but it's more or less the fact that I feel that you right now need to develop the right mindset as much as your need to develop the skills.

Believe me, I've been in the same place you've been where I reply each comment saying that I'm going to improve on something and then I reply to everyone in each thread. There are other members who can attest to that but the point I want to say in sharing that information is that you can't beat yourself up too much and you can't let yourself get defensive either. And that is a discipline that takes time to develop.

I mean shit once you get the foundation skills of art down you can literally do anything. I managed to do it in the course of four years and now I'm going to art school to develop my skills further to become a professional animator (And it took me about three tries to get into a good art school, my third time I got accepted into two of them and chose to go to Pratt Institute in Brooklyn, New York). If I can learn the basic knowledge, so can you.

If you wish to, message me privately and I will be more than happy to show you what I mean and perhaps answer further questions. Until then I have nothing more to add to this thread I'm afraid. I wish the best for you my friend.

[1337gamer15]

One point of advice would be to do the anatomy practices in pieces. Shame teachers didn't tell me that before putting some naked curmudgeon in front of me.

Like practice understanding the not so straightness of arms and legs before moving onto full body shots.