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(08-08-2009, 01:08 PM)Epistaxis Wrote:
(08-08-2009, 09:07 AM)Chris2Balls Wrote: Hey Mabelma, have you reread the posts I made on your last drawing thread? I don't trust books. Sure, they show anatomy and brushstrokes, etc. but you need to apply it yourself. You need to apply it, try it out, work it out. You need to see a result and try and work a way out to get to it. I rely more on my own anatomy now than the one in my book. I sometimes spend time looking at myself in a mirror moving my arms or legs and contracting, so I get an idea on how everything works and looks.
Have you sketched things that you have seen in the day, such as animals, people, architecture or landscapes? Have you tried different media? If you haven't, do so. I suggest watercolours nad pencils for the day. Keep on posting.

uh
the books we're suggesting outline specific excercises to do
and methods for observational drawing
it's not just "HURR DURR COPY THIS"

Between this and your "real artists don't use reference" shtick in the last thread I am thinking that you have no idea what you're talking about.
I think you didn't get my "real artists don't use reference" point: I meant that an artist, after gathering sufficient experience (with media, and knowledge on anatomy, light) can then go without using a reference if they have this aforementioned experience. Besides that's not the shtick I want him to memorise, it's the stuff I mentioned in the post you quoted above.
As for the books, I apologise, I was in a hurry at the time of its posting, it's my books that I don't trust because they don't explain nor make you do exercises.
Mabelma can go ahead and get a book you suggest if he wants to, it all depends if he feels comfortable in doing so. I personally don't and like working my way around things, which is one approach in art (or any other domain) among many.
I hope I've made things clear. And I think I know what I'm talking about at least as well as you do, Epistaxis. Except we don't have the same approach.
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Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 08-06-2009, 12:15 PM
RE: The key to success is art (Drawings) - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 08-08-2009, 05:20 PM
RE: The key to success is art (Drawings) - by KoA - 08-10-2009, 11:39 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 07-12-2012, 02:03 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 07-17-2012, 03:17 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 07-18-2012, 07:37 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Previous - 07-19-2012, 01:49 AM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 07-19-2012, 05:38 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 08-01-2012, 03:51 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Previous - 08-01-2012, 04:02 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 08-01-2012, 04:31 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Kami - 08-01-2012, 04:41 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 08-01-2012, 05:31 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 08-01-2012, 07:54 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Marth - 08-01-2012, 08:31 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Baegal - 08-01-2012, 11:46 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 08-02-2012, 10:42 AM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 08-02-2012, 11:12 AM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 08-02-2012, 12:50 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 08-02-2012, 02:09 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Previous - 08-02-2012, 02:22 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 08-02-2012, 06:19 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Marth - 08-02-2012, 11:34 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Gors - 08-03-2012, 07:13 AM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 08-03-2012, 09:38 AM
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RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Kami - 08-23-2012, 08:01 PM
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RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Kami - 08-24-2012, 06:19 PM
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RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 09-01-2012, 05:42 PM
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RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Marth - 09-23-2012, 09:06 PM
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RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Kami - 09-27-2012, 11:49 AM
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RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 09-27-2012, 07:31 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 11-06-2012, 01:44 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Marth - 11-06-2012, 07:47 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 11-07-2012, 02:44 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 11-07-2012, 05:38 PM
RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Marth - 11-07-2012, 06:15 PM
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RE: Mabelma's Thread of Stuff (Art) - by Mabelma - 11-12-2012, 06:58 PM
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