A factual presentation of the decline in gaming

[Kosheh]

@Kosheh: So your saying first party doesn't count?

I mean I KNOW pretty much all the third party games on the Wii suck. I was just say there ARE good games on the Wii, I didn't say anything about third party.

It totally does count, and hey man, of course there's good games on the Wii - I've been playing through Muramasa and that recent Naruto Shippuden fighter released is actually REALLY awesome [hell tyvon might actually even like it] but think about this for a second, Koopaul

Most of your reccomended games are all produced by first-party developer teams
most of the other games on the console [third party] are pretty shovelware

Sure, Nintendo DOES have a lot of big-name third-party developers working on titles for the console but do they sell very well?

no
They've got Ubisoft, known for making titles like Assassin's Creed and Prince of Persia. What do Wii owners get? Imagine Babyz Party.

but
well where I was going with this is that Nintendo's success pretty much rides on its first-party releases. When you look at a Wii or DS game release schedule for the next semester, you're usually looking at it to see the Nintendo-produced titles because they're guaranteed to be good. You look at Ubisoft's release table and it's all Imagine and Petz games and you're like "fuck it" and move on.

Why can't we be looking forward to other developers' releases?
You do realize that if Nintendo doesn't put out a first party game within x quarter of the year that it begins to really impact sales on the console?

that shit worked in the early 90's, man how the hell is that same tactic holding up now
you'd think Nintendo would talk to publishers and demand that they stop churning out such shitty games
...pretty much what tyvon just said

Spoiler

however it seems more like most "Imagine" games are produced by studios consisting of mostly college-fresh grads to see what they're capable of and if they're good they're asked to work on better releases [Assassin's Creed]
and in some cases they're just demos to test what the console really is capable of
A first-party example of that would be Yoshi's Touch & Go - a pretty shitty first-party title which is pretty much an E3 tech demo with a bloated price tag slapped on it