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Character Tweaks [revamped first post!]
(12-14-2009, 10:52 PM)Krampus Wrote:
(12-13-2009, 11:39 PM)Apparatus Wrote:
(12-13-2009, 11:31 PM)Krampus Wrote: Back in the 64 version Ness was always going to have PK Starstorm. If anyone gets a new FS its Lucas.
I don't quite understand this.

It was discovered through a hack that PK Starstorm was going to be Ness' FS in SSB64.

(12-14-2009, 10:08 PM)Sol Wrote: And yet it was also wrong to give them those Final Smashes in the first place, when they had perfectly usable moves that were actually theirs.

Besides, it's not the same as changing other moves. PK Starstorm didn't have any room for technique or anything, it wasn't controllable. No one will go "but I always did this special thing with that move!" If players miss the PK Starstorm Final Smash, it's because it looked pretty.

Back in the N64 PK Starstorm had a long time of waiting to finally be used.

I think it's wrong to change something that's not for decloning purposes or fixing problems. PK Starstorm had no problems, it worked.

Maybe I'd be more okay about having the move removed if it was something half assed... but this was there since the beginning!

The only reason you wanna get rid of it is because "Ness never used it!" which is silly.

No, the reason I want to get rid of it is because Ness DID use PK Rockin', as his signature move.

Your reasoning is that UNUSED data shows he would have used PK Starstorm in Smash Bros. 64.

I don't care if it's a year ago or 8 years ago that they made Ness' Final Smash PK Starstorm, it's still stupid. If anything, it's even stupider that they did it back then, when Ness was more relevant as a character, where more people would have known that his signature move was PK Rockin'.

Hey, the DK Bongos didn't exist until after Smash Bros. 64 was out. And yet, I don't think Donkey Kong's Final Smash would have been shooting fireballs because Mario taught him how to do it.
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Character Tweaks [revamped first post!] - by Ton - 09-08-2009, 03:50 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Wes - 09-08-2009, 03:58 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-08-2009, 04:03 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-11-2009, 03:00 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Wes - 09-08-2009, 04:09 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by JoseFran - 09-08-2009, 04:43 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Black Boo - 09-08-2009, 04:45 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by tsr moderation staff - 09-08-2009, 04:46 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Sol - 09-08-2009, 05:16 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-08-2009, 04:53 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by HyperSonic92 - 09-08-2009, 04:56 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Chaoxys - 09-08-2009, 04:59 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-08-2009, 05:02 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by tsr moderation staff - 09-08-2009, 05:08 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by HyperSonic92 - 09-08-2009, 05:06 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by mutantyoshi - 09-08-2009, 05:12 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by HyperSonic92 - 09-08-2009, 05:13 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Zabi - 09-08-2009, 05:14 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by JoseFran - 09-08-2009, 05:46 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-09-2009, 02:49 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Zoo Monkey - 09-08-2009, 05:16 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Wes - 09-08-2009, 05:31 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by D2S-Speed - 09-08-2009, 06:59 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-08-2009, 07:06 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-08-2009, 06:59 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-08-2009, 07:10 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by tsr moderation staff - 09-08-2009, 07:24 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Zern0 - 09-08-2009, 09:42 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Koopaul - 09-08-2009, 10:03 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-08-2009, 10:05 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Koopaul - 09-08-2009, 10:10 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-08-2009, 10:13 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by nicktheslayer - 09-09-2009, 09:16 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Jdaster64 - 09-09-2009, 03:55 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-09-2009, 03:59 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Kriven - 09-09-2009, 05:53 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-09-2009, 09:29 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by blah475 - 09-10-2009, 03:44 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by JoseFran - 09-10-2009, 07:28 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by [robo9] - 09-09-2009, 10:07 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-09-2009, 10:26 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by [robo9] - 09-11-2009, 05:13 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Gold - 09-10-2009, 02:33 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Jdaster64 - 09-10-2009, 08:33 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-10-2009, 09:41 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by nicktheslayer - 09-10-2009, 10:24 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-10-2009, 10:37 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by nicktheslayer - 09-10-2009, 11:02 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Jdaster64 - 09-10-2009, 04:01 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-10-2009, 04:03 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-10-2009, 09:25 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-11-2009, 01:11 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-11-2009, 01:35 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-11-2009, 01:44 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-11-2009, 04:34 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-11-2009, 04:44 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-11-2009, 05:20 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by [robo9] - 09-11-2009, 05:22 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-11-2009, 12:13 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-11-2009, 12:39 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by [robo9] - 09-11-2009, 03:04 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-11-2009, 03:05 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Jdaster64 - 09-11-2009, 03:30 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-13-2009, 11:51 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-14-2009, 01:57 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by MaverickETC - 09-15-2009, 06:37 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Chaoxys - 09-13-2009, 11:58 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-14-2009, 12:19 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-14-2009, 10:41 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Kitsu - 09-14-2009, 12:53 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by nicktheslayer - 09-14-2009, 01:10 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by HyperSonic92 - 09-14-2009, 01:15 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by nicktheslayer - 09-14-2009, 01:17 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-14-2009, 01:38 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by HyperSonic92 - 09-14-2009, 01:43 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by CeeY - 09-14-2009, 02:49 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Sol - 09-14-2009, 04:30 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-14-2009, 04:58 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Sengir - 09-14-2009, 03:33 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Sengir - 09-15-2009, 03:07 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-15-2009, 03:37 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Sengir - 09-15-2009, 03:41 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by nicktheslayer - 09-16-2009, 08:59 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Koopaul - 09-16-2009, 09:21 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by tsr moderation staff - 09-16-2009, 10:01 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-16-2009, 09:38 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ark Kuvis - 09-17-2009, 06:17 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-17-2009, 06:28 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by HyperSonic92 - 09-17-2009, 10:55 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Bane84 - 09-17-2009, 11:32 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-17-2009, 11:54 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by D2S-Speed - 09-17-2009, 05:03 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Teddy The Elite - 09-17-2009, 06:56 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ninspriterx - 09-17-2009, 08:29 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-17-2009, 09:14 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Jdaster64 - 09-19-2009, 12:55 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by MaverickETC - 09-20-2009, 11:23 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 09-20-2009, 11:30 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ninspriterx - 09-20-2009, 11:41 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ekoi - 09-20-2009, 12:15 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-20-2009, 11:53 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by HyperSonic92 - 09-20-2009, 12:52 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by D2S-Speed - 09-20-2009, 02:53 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Runouw - 09-20-2009, 02:16 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Koopaul - 09-20-2009, 03:42 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Jdaster64 - 09-20-2009, 02:31 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by MaverickETC - 09-23-2009, 07:05 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by HyperSonic92 - 09-23-2009, 09:34 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by MaverickETC - 09-24-2009, 07:11 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Koopaul - 09-23-2009, 08:18 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Angelglory - 09-23-2009, 09:38 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Chaoxys - 09-23-2009, 09:42 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Kitsu - 09-23-2009, 11:47 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Wes - 09-24-2009, 05:10 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ark Kuvis - 09-24-2009, 03:25 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by mutantyoshi - 09-25-2009, 05:44 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by soulcaliburfan - 09-25-2009, 08:16 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by tsr moderation staff - 09-25-2009, 09:02 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Jdaster64 - 09-26-2009, 02:18 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Pik - 11-05-2009, 05:20 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ekoi - 09-26-2009, 04:24 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Kirbyfan - 09-26-2009, 04:02 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by D2S-Speed - 09-28-2009, 09:56 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Koopaul - 09-28-2009, 10:03 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-28-2009, 11:02 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by D2S-Speed - 09-28-2009, 10:21 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Chaoxys - 09-28-2009, 10:33 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by tsr moderation staff - 09-28-2009, 11:21 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Jdaster64 - 09-28-2009, 11:43 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by tsr moderation staff - 09-29-2009, 07:55 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by D2S-Speed - 09-29-2009, 08:58 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 09-29-2009, 09:47 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by MarcelloF - 10-17-2009, 05:23 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by TomGuycott - 10-30-2009, 01:18 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 10-30-2009, 01:31 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 11-05-2009, 03:41 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Rökkan - 11-05-2009, 04:28 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Wes - 11-05-2009, 04:49 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 11-05-2009, 04:59 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ninspriterx - 11-05-2009, 05:29 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 11-05-2009, 05:36 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 11-05-2009, 06:02 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Sol - 11-05-2009, 06:24 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 11-05-2009, 06:26 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Sol - 11-05-2009, 06:55 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by soulcaliburfan - 11-05-2009, 07:21 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by tsr moderation staff - 11-05-2009, 07:25 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by TomGuycott - 11-05-2009, 11:53 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Koopaul - 11-06-2009, 12:17 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by tsr moderation staff - 11-06-2009, 01:01 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 11-06-2009, 02:41 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by D2S-Speed - 11-06-2009, 02:43 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Rökkan - 11-06-2009, 03:04 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by D2S-Speed - 11-06-2009, 03:06 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Rökkan - 11-06-2009, 03:11 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by D2S-Speed - 11-06-2009, 03:22 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 11-07-2009, 06:23 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Angelglory - 11-06-2009, 03:44 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Zern0 - 11-06-2009, 05:11 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Kitsu - 11-07-2009, 10:43 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ninspriterx - 11-07-2009, 12:09 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Wes - 11-07-2009, 12:15 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Rökkan - 11-08-2009, 04:47 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Ton - 11-08-2009, 07:54 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Koopaul - 11-08-2009, 08:05 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Rökkan - 11-08-2009, 08:27 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by HyperSonic92 - 11-28-2009, 11:27 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by mutantyoshi - 11-28-2009, 04:44 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 11-28-2009, 04:53 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Cshad - 11-28-2009, 05:13 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 11-28-2009, 05:18 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by tsr moderation staff - 11-28-2009, 07:07 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Cshad - 11-28-2009, 07:39 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 11-28-2009, 07:59 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Cshad - 11-28-2009, 08:12 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Alpha Six - 11-28-2009, 08:18 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by tsr moderation staff - 11-28-2009, 10:21 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Koopaul - 11-28-2009, 10:39 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Cshad - 11-28-2009, 10:23 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Cshad - 11-28-2009, 11:45 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Koopaul - 11-28-2009, 11:57 PM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Cshad - 11-29-2009, 12:17 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by Koopaul - 11-29-2009, 01:51 AM
RE: Character Tweaks - by tsr moderation staff - 11-29-2009, 11:07 AM
RE: Character Tweaks [revamped first post!] - by Sol - 12-14-2009, 11:45 PM

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