Also please note that we don't have a damned deadline to meet or anything. This is literally nothing more than a fangame that people participate in helping with during their free time. We don't have to get everything done by Q4. This is a volunteer, free project that people are doing for fun.
Why even bother rushing or critiquing it? As far as I know, I'm the only person here that will actually dedicate hours of work to a game project, and I'm working on my own commercial projects, not a fangame spriting project.
There's absolutely no need to rush this project, because there's nothing to rush it for. We've shown a lot more progress with this one than the previous incarnations, just because everyone is making quality sprites, quality animations, and there is just lots of quality in general.
So what are you critiquing? You're critiquing the validity of quality sprites. And that's... stupid.
Please re-read this post.
Why even bother rushing or critiquing it? As far as I know, I'm the only person here that will actually dedicate hours of work to a game project, and I'm working on my own commercial projects, not a fangame spriting project.
There's absolutely no need to rush this project, because there's nothing to rush it for. We've shown a lot more progress with this one than the previous incarnations, just because everyone is making quality sprites, quality animations, and there is just lots of quality in general.
So what are you critiquing? You're critiquing the validity of quality sprites. And that's... stupid.
(04-24-2010, 01:24 AM)Tarvonas Wrote:(04-24-2010, 01:14 AM)Alpha Six Wrote: It's not necessarily "non-spriters," but if said user hasn't actually sprited, they're more and more likely to come off as wrong. Especially when they bring up completely invalid arguments as an effort to save face. :l
(04-24-2010, 01:14 AM)Tarvonas Wrote: I'm not saying criticism isn't necessary! Quote me on where I actually said that, for heavens sake!
(04-24-2010, 01:14 AM)Tarvonas Wrote: I said Pointless criticism
You're welcome.
(hint: there is no such thing as pointless criticism unless it's completely wrong-- which none of the criticism in the sprites here ever is. :l
What? I said quote me on where I said criticism wasn't necessary. Not where I said "pointless criticism". I never said criticism in general is not necessary. Criticism is great! I'm all for it! It's just when people point out insignificant little things that inevitably delay working progress... that's just what I think needs to be avoided here.
Also... as an effort to save face? Or maybe I'm posting these things as an effort to further help my suggestion, and possibly benefit the forums here in terms of working speed.
Alright, Pointless isn't the word. Unnecessary is more like it.
Please re-read this post.
(04-24-2010, 01:24 AM)Alpha Six Wrote: You're completely missing the point.
You're saying that criticism isn't useful if the sprite looks passable. And that's fine and dandy, but have you considered that some people are getting involved in this not only to sprite their favorite characters, but to improve their current skill?
It doesn't matter if it looks passable to you or anybody else if the spriter is actually looking to improve in their work in every way possible.
Whether or not a sprite is good is not dependent on just the shading and the usability. It's dependent on structure, color palettes, emotion, and depth. If something looks off, we're going to crit it, because that's what we're supposed to do.
Whereas you keep making the "pointless crit" argument, ignoring when people are saying that there is no such thing as pointless crit. And then when people try to further their points, you just shoot it down and act like you magically don't care anymore. You're not actually seeing our angle for it-- you're just dismissing what we're saying in the hopes that this will just blow over magically.
And that's why people are still angry about it. :/