Neither of them post in spriting discussion anymore, and Iceman has made a topic saying "please help me improve", saying he's changed and is willing to accept all the advice geared towards him. Everyone in this topic feels he has a lot of talent he just needs to try something new. This does not need to be debated. He's asking how to improve and people are giving him the advice they feel will help him do so.
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