07-10-2010, 03:52 PM
(07-10-2010, 03:43 PM)PenguMasta Wrote:(07-10-2010, 03:33 PM)Profanisaurus Wrote: Except there's literally nothing in my post to suggest that I think my way is better.
I said, twice, actually, that there's nothing wrong with women who want to dress in a traditionally provocative way, but they should understand that this comes from a social expectation that stems from male dominance.
I never said anything about "all other girls" or about the right or wrong thing to do, just that if you're behaving in a particular way, you should be aware of where those behaviours have come from. That, actually, has little to do with gender, but since Djanjo brought up his utterly pretend definition of feminism, I felt the need to defend real feminism.
they should" understand but im sure most of the girls just don't care and probably just dress that way because they want to get attention. and if it stemed from male dominance then its not any of us males faults that its become that way, we were born into that time.. so when females rant about that sort of stuff, it seems pointless to "me" at least..
I'm not blaming men, though. Men and women should both be aware of gender roles, and also be aware of how you can fight damaging ideals.
Society is, ultimately, capable of change. Look at us now, actually. While women are still treated as a minority (despite making up roughly half of the population, obviously), we're way, way further ahead than we used to be. But to get further, people as a whole need to understand their role in subjugation.
This doesn't just apply to gender issues, it applies to any issues of inequality. If things were just allowed to continue because "that's how it is", then we'd still have slavery. Hell, I wouldn't be able to vote if things maintained the status quo for the sake of it.
Ultimately, regardless of gender, race, sexuality, anything - you should stand up for what you believe, and pursue change. Allowing things to remain as they are when you know that they're problematic isn't as bad as being openly bigoted, but it's still pretty bad.