I'm trying Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

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yes because apparently you didn't read my posts on that

have you played sonic 2006? serious question.

(i'm about to go to bed so i'm going to shorten this post from my full intent)

the game plays like the adventure games do
but the controls and physics are totally fucked up. literally 85% of the problems with the game are cheap deaths and odd behavior due to physics bugs and terrible controls

the other big problems are the loading times, too many characters, unfinished features, and (arguably) the story
the level design, graphics, and music are already there
it's just basically everything that isn't art-based isn't

if the controls and physics were fixed, the game would instantly jump from awful to decent. Just like that.
I'd even be willing to live with the loading times and stuff with the game actually in a playable state.

more details omitted because i'm tired
will finish this discussion tomorrow