RPG Discussion (Formerly; Earthbound or Chrono Trigger?)

[PrettyNier]

So it's a break in monotony if it's something you like and a "random and meaningless assortment of events and things" if you don't.

what? how can you even think that I at any point implied that?
do you not realize I was referring to two very different things with these comments?

the former is in reference to the minigames (which you originally brought up: i'm not sure why, they're irrevelent to the plot), the latter is in reference to the superficiality of final fantasy 4's plot and scenarios.

They all realize what they've been dealt and try to change it.

no. they accept it, they accept what was, what has happened, and what is, and then they move on with that as a basis for who they are. sephiroth does the opposite, he rejects who he is and what it actually means and never redeems himself from that.

you're conflating "dealing with the hand you've been given" with "not doing anything about anything"; the latter is forlorn stagnation, the former is ultimately about understanding and acceptance. about dealing with grief.

Cait Sith's and Yang's sacrifices are pretty much the same idea.

this is part of the problem. you're thinking about things in terms of "what" happens: which is not what i'm talking about. i'm referring to the conditions that surround it. i'm not sure why you can't just accept that you're wrong in that regard - or at the very least try and argue in a legitimate or relevant manner.

you're kind of sephirothing here, bro.

if you are so hellbent on the idea that yang and cait siths sacrifices are the same thing, then please: what does yangs sacrifice bring to the table? why does it happen? what do the events that lead up to it mean in the grand scheme of things? why did it have to happen? and what does it honestly do for yangs character and the other characters?

and no, ton, just describing the events in question doesn't work. all of these things can be answered satisfactorily in cait siths "sacrifice".

They all realize what they've been dealt and try to change it.

this is nothing but a copout: the "it's all relative" and "it's all opinions" argument can only goes so far.