12-08-2010, 05:20 PM
(12-08-2010, 02:47 PM)Sketchasaurus Wrote: many of these inexperienced sprite-editors (as they can't be called pixel artists or spriters at this point in time) are younglings that've barely entered their oh-so-glorious-teenage-years, ranging from around 12-13 or so. I bring this up because I think it's an important part of why they end up making horrendous excuses for edits and sprite comics for the following reasons:
1. Teenagers are lazy (lazy people make lazy edits)
2. Teens are inexperienced (low amount of art, writing, and technological skills)
3.Teens have overinflated egos (they think everything that they make is gold, and that hinders improvement)
4.Teens think that everyone is against them (they can't take constructive criticism which is supposed to help them do better.)
There are a few examples that are able to disprove these observations, but I'm speaking on general terms here.
I kinda wanna bitch slap you for this post.
If you haven't noticed tSR's member base of active members go from 14-24 years of age. Meaning the prime life of teenagers (and some young adults) in here.
Another thing you seemed to have not noticed; We tell people who post edits to do customs, we give rather harsh and blunt creative crit, and if people can't take it then they leave because they think it is a personal attack on their work instead of help.
To be honest you are just describing DA and not this forum. This forum works in the exact opposite way.
(12-08-2010, 04:46 PM)Terminal Devastation Wrote:(12-08-2010, 04:08 PM)Neoriceisgood Wrote:It's perfectly reasonable to think like that, since I was just pointing out a few of the more valid reasonings behind trying to get help making a good edit, instead of making a bad scratch at the moment. Just a way of saying, give the editers a chance to make what they have good.(12-08-2010, 02:17 PM)Terminal Devastation Wrote:(12-08-2010, 12:39 PM)Murderbeard Wrote: here's another can of worms: what if a person WANTS an edit?This is a good point.
"hi, i'm GoldenLugia64, and i'm trying to edit this trainer sprite into my character. c+c?"
maybe they aren't even trying to be a spriter?
Maybe they're not actually looking to improve their skills, but rather trying to improve the sprite quality of something. Which means "Looks good" takes precedent over "I learned something". I'd like to think this is quite the common issue with sprite comicers and (fan) game makers that do not yet have the skills to make decent art and thus rely on others and their currently limited spriting talents. Is this the lazy way? Perhaps, even likely. But the point is, some of them may to look for those better versed in spriting for advice on how to make what they have look really good even if those with better trained eyes and more talent can tell it really isn't that hard.
Tl;dr Some people just want the end results not the practice and rather focus their attention on other things, like writing or programming.
Pardon me for asking this, but am I a total nutjob for not seeing how this is a problem at all?
Then they should find someone to sprite for them if they aren't gonna put all the effort in themselves to make it look as best as it can. I mean, do you see *any* major company use edits for all of their sprites or have they made the sprites themselves. OH HEY GUESS WHAT! They make their own sprites!!!!
Even if it is just a game for fun, if you enjoy making the game you should put all of your effort into making it so you can feel more proud of it afterwards.