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The Male Gaze
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Double posting because I'M A FUCKIN ADMIN DEAL W/ IT

Let's look at this example you cite about Alien. I've not actually seen all of that movie, so this is gonna be a bit hypothetical.
Let's imagine Film X. It stars a woman who uses her sexuality as a plot point. To demonstrate this, there is a scene where the character is posing sexily for another character. This has a context that works with the narrative. It makes sense, and is 'aimed' at the circumstance within the media; but the audience gets to see it too. I don't feel there's much wrong with this. Other factor CAN turn it into sexist bullshit, or other unfortunate implications, but that's not soley caused by the presence of sexuality.

Let's imagine Film Y. It stars a woman. She's sexy, but it's not a plot point, insomuch as the male protagonist needs a female lead. To demonstrate this, there's a scene where the character is posing sexily. Other characters may or may not be present, it doesn't seemed to be aimed at them much. It has no context within the narrative. With no real in-narrative aim, it's there soley for the audience's benefit. That's pretty damn bullshit, and you'd be surprised how often it happens.

Is that Alien example Film X or Film Y? Honest question.


Oh, oh! Concerning male sexuality in media, have you noticed how sexy males are in a dominant, confident, controlling position, and often aren't /trying/ to be sexy? Jake Gyllenhaal was shirtless through a lot of Prince of Persia, but he doesn't at any point pose for the camera, and is doing so while being all heroic 'n shit.

Edit: oh, fuck you C2B you ruined my double post. Also thanks for posting the clip.

It wasn't so bad until holy fucking damn that slow pan-down was incredibly blatant.
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Messages In This Thread
The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-16-2011, 05:20 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Cshad - 07-16-2011, 05:50 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Sengir - 07-16-2011, 05:54 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-16-2011, 05:55 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Sengir - 07-16-2011, 06:01 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-16-2011, 06:04 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by PrettyNier - 07-16-2011, 06:29 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by DavidCaruso - 07-16-2011, 06:34 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-16-2011, 06:38 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 07-16-2011, 06:50 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-16-2011, 06:50 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 07-16-2011, 06:54 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-16-2011, 07:01 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-16-2011, 07:07 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by DavidCaruso - 07-16-2011, 07:08 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 07-16-2011, 07:10 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-16-2011, 07:13 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-16-2011, 07:16 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by PrettyNier - 07-16-2011, 07:31 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-16-2011, 07:32 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-16-2011, 07:33 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-16-2011, 07:40 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by DavidCaruso - 07-16-2011, 08:23 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-16-2011, 08:49 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-16-2011, 09:01 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 09:10 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Kriven - 07-16-2011, 09:12 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 09:15 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Kriven - 07-16-2011, 09:15 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-16-2011, 09:26 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-16-2011, 09:51 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by a babyass man - 07-16-2011, 09:45 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by triptych - 07-17-2011, 04:47 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-16-2011, 09:54 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-16-2011, 09:58 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 09:59 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-16-2011, 10:02 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 10:05 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-16-2011, 10:10 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 10:17 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-16-2011, 10:27 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 10:30 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-16-2011, 10:36 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 10:45 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-16-2011, 10:21 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 10:23 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-17-2011, 04:10 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-16-2011, 10:23 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-17-2011, 03:46 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-17-2011, 04:00 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-17-2011, 04:19 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by DavidCaruso - 07-16-2011, 10:26 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-16-2011, 10:50 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by lord bestfriendgeny - 07-16-2011, 10:52 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by DavidCaruso - 07-16-2011, 11:21 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by tsr moderation staff - 07-16-2011, 11:30 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-16-2011, 11:30 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by DavidCaruso - 07-17-2011, 12:36 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by tsr moderation staff - 07-16-2011, 10:55 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-16-2011, 11:00 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by lord bestfriendgeny - 07-16-2011, 11:27 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Kriven - 07-16-2011, 11:47 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by lord bestfriendgeny - 07-16-2011, 11:57 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by tsr moderation staff - 07-17-2011, 12:46 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by lord bestfriendgeny - 07-17-2011, 12:51 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-17-2011, 01:00 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by DavidCaruso - 07-17-2011, 12:53 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by lord bestfriendgeny - 07-17-2011, 01:07 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 07-17-2011, 05:46 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 06:28 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 07-17-2011, 06:48 AM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Sengir - 07-17-2011, 01:43 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 01:50 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by StarSock64 - 07-17-2011, 02:46 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-17-2011, 03:52 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-17-2011, 03:56 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Sengir - 07-17-2011, 04:06 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 04:13 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Lemonray - 07-17-2011, 04:09 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-17-2011, 04:17 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-17-2011, 04:21 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-17-2011, 04:23 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-17-2011, 04:26 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-17-2011, 04:27 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Sengir - 07-17-2011, 04:25 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-17-2011, 04:26 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 04:27 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 04:28 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by lord bestfriendgeny - 07-17-2011, 04:28 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-17-2011, 04:31 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Sengir - 07-17-2011, 04:30 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 04:31 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-17-2011, 04:42 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 07-17-2011, 05:11 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-17-2011, 05:12 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Kriven - 07-17-2011, 06:02 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 06:11 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Kriven - 07-17-2011, 06:28 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Jalopes - 07-17-2011, 06:29 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Kriven - 07-17-2011, 06:31 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by DavidCaruso - 07-17-2011, 06:47 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by GrooveMan.exe - 07-17-2011, 06:49 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by RétroX - 07-17-2011, 06:49 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-17-2011, 07:00 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-17-2011, 07:06 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 07:07 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by lord bestfriendgeny - 07-17-2011, 07:08 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-17-2011, 07:17 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-17-2011, 07:20 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by SKELTON S. SKELETON - 07-17-2011, 07:20 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-17-2011, 07:22 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-17-2011, 07:22 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 07:22 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Sengir - 07-17-2011, 07:23 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-17-2011, 07:24 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Alpha Six - 07-17-2011, 07:26 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 07:26 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 07-17-2011, 07:30 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-17-2011, 07:34 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 07:37 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by RétroX - 07-17-2011, 07:44 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Chutzpar - 07-17-2011, 07:52 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Koopaul - 07-17-2011, 08:17 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by lord bestfriendgeny - 07-17-2011, 08:20 PM
RE: The Male Gaze - by Cobalt Blue - 07-18-2011, 03:05 AM

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