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06-26-2012, 05:55 PM
![[Image: 3iG5A.png]](http://i.imgur.com/3iG5A.png) this is the latest revision for loaf. i was having trouble making his arms stand out in front of him, so i gave him a suit? i guess that works, but then i couldn't find a good position for his hands that kept them from blending into his face while also made his arms look like arms with correct joints and such. loaf is still going through revisions. i'm probably going to scrap what i have and start again. |
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BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-02-2012, 09:03 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Hoeloe - 04-03-2012, 05:53 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-03-2012, 12:10 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Hoeloe - 04-03-2012, 04:50 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-03-2012, 06:31 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by alexmach1 - 04-03-2012, 06:38 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-03-2012, 06:51 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by alexmach1 - 04-03-2012, 07:04 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Shade - 04-03-2012, 07:47 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Omega - 04-03-2012, 09:04 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by alexmach1 - 04-03-2012, 09:46 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-03-2012, 10:30 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-05-2012, 01:59 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Hoeloe - 04-05-2012, 06:48 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-05-2012, 01:34 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Gwen - 04-05-2012, 02:07 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Shade - 04-05-2012, 03:33 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-06-2012, 05:24 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-08-2012, 12:55 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by alexmach1 - 04-08-2012, 12:59 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-08-2012, 01:35 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by recme - 04-08-2012, 10:56 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-08-2012, 11:20 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Previous - 04-08-2012, 11:27 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Previous - 04-08-2012, 03:45 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-08-2012, 11:33 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by alexmach1 - 04-08-2012, 03:35 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-08-2012, 06:32 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-08-2012, 10:31 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Strasteo - 04-08-2012, 10:39 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-08-2012, 10:44 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Sengir - 04-09-2012, 02:09 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by recme - 04-09-2012, 08:51 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-09-2012, 10:11 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by alexmach1 - 04-09-2012, 05:22 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Zadaben - 04-09-2012, 05:31 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by alexmach1 - 04-09-2012, 05:56 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Garamonde - 04-09-2012, 07:13 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Speed-X - 04-09-2012, 07:28 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-11-2012, 08:44 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Zadaben - 04-11-2012, 08:51 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Speed-X - 04-11-2012, 09:00 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-11-2012, 09:13 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Zadaben - 04-11-2012, 09:21 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Speed-X - 04-11-2012, 09:46 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by SKELTON S. SKELETON - 04-14-2012, 03:26 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-14-2012, 08:37 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by SKELTON S. SKELETON - 04-14-2012, 06:42 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-14-2012, 06:58 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by SKELTON S. SKELETON - 04-14-2012, 07:14 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-14-2012, 07:44 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-15-2012, 02:45 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Jawnsunn - 04-15-2012, 07:08 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-16-2012, 01:36 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Speed-X - 04-16-2012, 07:24 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-16-2012, 11:11 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Previous - 04-16-2012, 11:18 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-16-2012, 11:21 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Previous - 04-16-2012, 12:42 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-16-2012, 04:52 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by alexmach1 - 04-16-2012, 08:39 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-17-2012, 01:30 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Speed-X - 04-17-2012, 11:33 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-18-2012, 01:01 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Animator Rex - 04-18-2012, 05:48 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Shade - 04-18-2012, 11:05 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Kitsu - 04-18-2012, 11:10 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-18-2012, 11:42 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Hoeloe - 04-18-2012, 11:48 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Ninspriterx - 04-18-2012, 08:47 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-19-2012, 02:18 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by MoneyMan - 04-19-2012, 08:40 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Hoeloe - 04-19-2012, 09:01 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-19-2012, 03:26 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by alexmach1 - 04-19-2012, 05:44 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Hoeloe - 04-19-2012, 03:47 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-21-2012, 08:29 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-26-2012, 11:50 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Previous - 04-27-2012, 12:50 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-27-2012, 01:25 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Gors - 04-27-2012, 08:10 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-27-2012, 10:50 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Shade - 04-27-2012, 11:02 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-27-2012, 11:28 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Jamuk - 04-27-2012, 12:03 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by The KKM - 04-27-2012, 12:10 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Gors - 04-27-2012, 12:19 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Chaoxys - 04-27-2012, 12:23 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-27-2012, 12:42 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Deathbringer - 04-27-2012, 12:44 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-27-2012, 06:46 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Gors - 04-28-2012, 09:09 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 04-28-2012, 10:48 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-07-2012, 02:27 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-07-2012, 11:20 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Gors - 05-08-2012, 02:08 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-08-2012, 02:18 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Previous - 05-08-2012, 02:39 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-08-2012, 02:55 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-09-2012, 04:34 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Ailit - 05-10-2012, 12:58 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-13-2012, 08:15 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Sengir - 05-13-2012, 08:34 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-13-2012, 08:40 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Garamonde - 05-13-2012, 10:07 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-16-2012, 08:47 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Thumbtacks - 05-16-2012, 10:43 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Cobalt Blue - 05-17-2012, 11:57 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-19-2012, 02:35 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Hoeloe - 05-19-2012, 04:27 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Garamonde - 05-19-2012, 11:00 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-19-2012, 11:34 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Medevenx - 05-19-2012, 08:11 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-19-2012, 08:21 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by alexmach1 - 05-19-2012, 08:27 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-19-2012, 09:45 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Medevenx - 05-19-2012, 10:01 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-19-2012, 10:21 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by HandToeKnee - 05-19-2012, 10:15 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Garamonde - 05-19-2012, 11:26 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by alexmach1 - 05-19-2012, 11:41 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Medevenx - 05-20-2012, 01:51 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-20-2012, 01:57 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Previous - 05-20-2012, 04:23 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-20-2012, 01:20 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by alexmach1 - 05-20-2012, 01:32 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-20-2012, 01:44 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-22-2012, 05:33 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Gors - 05-26-2012, 09:33 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-26-2012, 10:07 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Shade - 05-26-2012, 10:28 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 05-26-2012, 11:40 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-14-2012, 08:17 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Garamonde - 06-15-2012, 12:02 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-15-2012, 01:03 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by alexmach1 - 06-15-2012, 01:09 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-15-2012, 12:25 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-16-2012, 03:15 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Thumbtacks - 06-16-2012, 03:18 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-16-2012, 03:21 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Star - 06-16-2012, 04:09 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Thumbtacks - 06-16-2012, 04:52 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-16-2012, 10:08 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by alexmach1 - 06-16-2012, 10:20 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by TomGuycott - 06-16-2012, 11:04 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Medevenx - 06-16-2012, 10:41 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-17-2012, 12:57 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Sengir - 06-17-2012, 01:30 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Kabukiguy - 06-17-2012, 04:27 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Dazz - 06-17-2012, 04:47 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Garamonde - 06-17-2012, 04:47 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-17-2012, 05:10 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-19-2012, 01:56 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by ~Axis~ - 06-19-2012, 02:14 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Korby - 06-19-2012, 02:17 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Star - 06-19-2012, 02:44 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Thumbtacks - 06-19-2012, 12:24 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-19-2012, 02:59 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by TheGreatGatsby - 06-19-2012, 11:46 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by TomGuycott - 06-19-2012, 11:49 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Gaia - 06-19-2012, 11:51 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Gors - 06-19-2012, 11:53 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by TomGuycott - 06-19-2012, 11:55 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Devicho - 06-20-2012, 12:10 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-22-2012, 02:50 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by TheGreatGatsby - 06-22-2012, 03:39 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Iceman404 - 06-22-2012, 11:43 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-22-2012, 02:29 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Iceman404 - 06-22-2012, 02:49 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-22-2012, 03:34 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Garamonde - 06-22-2012, 04:02 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-22-2012, 04:10 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Garamonde - 06-22-2012, 04:21 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Candel - 06-22-2012, 04:48 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Iceman404 - 06-22-2012, 06:19 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by SmithyGCN - 06-23-2012, 12:08 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-24-2012, 07:34 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Candel - 06-24-2012, 07:47 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-24-2012, 08:21 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-26-2012, 03:06 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Medevenx - 06-26-2012, 06:59 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-26-2012, 03:56 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Candel - 06-26-2012, 05:47 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-26-2012, 05:55 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 06-27-2012, 12:43 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Candel - 07-02-2012, 04:52 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-01-2012, 04:01 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Shade - 07-01-2012, 06:26 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Thumbtacks - 07-01-2012, 06:55 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Gaia - 07-01-2012, 04:46 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-02-2012, 05:36 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Candel - 07-02-2012, 05:41 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-02-2012, 05:51 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Gors - 07-02-2012, 06:31 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-02-2012, 06:33 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Medevenx - 07-02-2012, 06:50 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-02-2012, 07:50 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Medevenx - 07-02-2012, 07:56 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-02-2012, 08:09 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Medevenx - 07-02-2012, 08:11 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Garamonde - 07-02-2012, 08:31 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-02-2012, 08:41 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Candel - 07-02-2012, 08:57 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-02-2012, 09:01 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Gors - 07-03-2012, 06:07 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Zadaben - 07-05-2012, 04:24 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Iceman404 - 07-05-2012, 10:27 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Candel - 07-05-2012, 10:53 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-05-2012, 11:49 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Gors - 07-06-2012, 03:49 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Garamonde - 07-06-2012, 08:14 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Candel - 07-06-2012, 10:12 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Garamonde - 07-06-2012, 10:19 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-06-2012, 10:45 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-06-2012, 02:55 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Sengir - 07-06-2012, 03:03 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Garamonde - 07-06-2012, 03:10 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-08-2012, 10:23 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Iceman404 - 07-08-2012, 11:33 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Shade - 07-09-2012, 11:05 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Gors - 07-09-2012, 02:52 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-10-2012, 01:48 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Medevenx - 07-10-2012, 05:57 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Gors - 07-10-2012, 08:11 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-10-2012, 02:45 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Medevenx - 07-12-2012, 09:33 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Star - 07-13-2012, 03:55 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-15-2012, 02:05 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Shade - 07-15-2012, 11:17 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Sevenstitch - 07-15-2012, 08:57 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Kami - 07-15-2012, 11:28 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Sevenstitch - 07-15-2012, 11:36 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-15-2012, 02:03 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Virt - 07-15-2012, 02:31 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-15-2012, 02:33 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Terminal Devastation - 07-15-2012, 09:14 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Garamonde - 07-15-2012, 04:00 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Kami - 07-15-2012, 05:57 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-15-2012, 09:24 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Baegal - 07-16-2012, 11:26 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by AuraLancer - 07-16-2012, 11:31 AM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Garamonde - 07-16-2012, 12:59 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Star - 07-16-2012, 03:27 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-16-2012, 05:29 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Iceman404 - 07-16-2012, 05:48 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 07-16-2012, 06:06 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Iceman404 - 07-16-2012, 06:29 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 08-03-2012, 03:59 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Kami - 08-03-2012, 04:17 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Garamonde - 08-03-2012, 04:22 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 08-03-2012, 05:04 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 08-03-2012, 05:08 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Chris2Balls [:B] - 08-03-2012, 06:42 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Crappy Blue Luigi - 08-03-2012, 06:54 PM
RE: BEAT 'EM UP - by Iceman404 - 08-03-2012, 09:46 PM
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