(09-03-2012, 04:54 AM)Alpha Six Wrote: the biggest mistake they made was allowing a "negative" feature; this isn't the same as a reputation system, or the ratings system from YouTube.
these "thumbs down" (which are now, thankfully, gone) affect the "community" rating of the game, and if the "community" seems to be saying "no", well guess what-- your hard work and time spent doesn't pay off, unless Steam themselves decided to take a look at your game... which would severely weaken the impact of "community approval," which is what the system was made for in the first place, right? because of this, Valve would probably have to take down the service for a little bit to do some major re-imagining, then bring it back up with what they've learned from this kitchen fire. (which is moderation, hopefully) the basic idea for Greenlight was to give power to the community and make adding new games easier, but i think Valve may have misfired and accidentally made it more difficult for them to do so (with this initial release of Greenlight, at least).
another flaw with the thumbs-up/thumbs-down system is that you don't have to give a comment about your rating. at all.
you didn't have to give a reason to downvote a game. it was as simple as going into a game, finding something you don't like about it, and pressing a button.
congratulations, you just negated a positive vote. and it took you maybe 10 seconds at the most to read the first sentence (or even just the genre of the game) in the synopsis, look at 2 screenshots, and decide "this is shit."
and guess what? people are bored enough to do this to your game. trust me. they are. it only takes seconds for them to tell you that they think your game isn't worth a dime, then go on and do it to the other 200+ games on Greenlight. it doesn't matter how good/bad your game is, because 70% of the market already thinks it's bad. and by looking through Greenlight's support forums, you can see the obvious bias against indie games that a lot of Steam users have.
Valve confirmed downvotes never did this.
They were to just remove titles from said voter's queue.
It was a filtering system, nothing more.
Unless you want to take it as "secret valve quality conspiracy."
As of an update that was,
what,
yesterday? It now says "Would you purchase it?"
This gives an option of "No thanks/not interested."
The only thing left wrong with that someone on a mission.