Inaccurately Accurate

[Kriven]

Objective doesn't mean perfect. It means "existing independently of perception or an individual's conceptions".

I know this. Which is why it doesn't exist in art. There is nothing independent of perception about a medium which is entirely based on perception. Art is a perception, and when you view art, you create a perception of someone else's perception. There is no objectivity.

By saying that there is nothing objective about quality in art, you are also saying that there cannot be subjectivity, either. Subjectivity is nothing but a reaction to objectivity.

This is false. Subjectivity and Objectivity are brittle conceptions without tangible basis. One can exist without the other just as much as a tree makes a noise with nobody around to hear it.

You've stated what you believe is a difference, but you have not addressed the difference.

I have. You simply refuse to acknowledge it.

You refuse to acknowledge a lot of my argument, actually. I dislike the selective reply game, Romney.

You have yet to actually meaningfully counter an argument.

I have. You've yet to bother to care. And I don't think you ever will. You're too busy sitting on your cloud of pseudo-intellectualism. Which has been growing thicker and thicker for a while now. It's funny, because you rarely show up here, and when you do it's literally to bludgeon somebody again and again with long winded phrases that amount to: "You're stupid because I have an opposing set of beliefs."

Which is honestly where we're at and why this argument will have no foreseeable end, and why you feel like I haven't made a counter argument. Our sets of beliefs, and oh trust me, this is a debate of belief, is so far opposite to each other that either we can't acknowledge them as legitimate, or we just don't even recognize the logic behind them.

The other problem is that you didn't come in with an attitude of debate. You came in hot and ready to lecture. That's not any way to have a meaningful conversation with anyone.

you're receding deeper and deeper into high school territory

You're ascending higher and higher on your horse. Don't forget that air gets thin!