10-03-2012, 07:40 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-03-2012, 07:42 PM by Zero Kirby.)
Funny you mention Zelda because my two favorite Zeldas don't even have Zelda or Ganondorf in them at all, plotwise, whereas every single one that does that isn't Wind Waker or Skyward Sword is pretty much bland city for me
There's a distinct difference between Zelda and Mario platformers that isn't just gameplay. Mario could care less about his platformer stories because his stories aren't why we play his platform games, and if they are why you play his platform games, then, well, no wonder you're disappointed. What is wrong with you, etc. etc..
Zelda doesn't have a huge emphasis on story either as evidenced by Zelda being the kidnap victim in 100% of the games she's in and the timeline literally just being put together because nobody would shut the hell up about it, but they definitely force it on a lot more because there's prose. Cutscenes to advance the plot. Cinematics and words and the like. And some of the stories, like Wind Waker, Majora's Mask, and Link's Awakening, are great. If the story is bad, like in Twilight Princess, then the game as a whole kind of suffers for it. Whereas in Mario, cutscenes are pretty much delegated to showing how Bowser kidnaps Peach and how you are going to get her back. Sunshine differs in that regard a bit because it has a story that they kind of put effort into but nobody seemed to like it. But a paper-thin story in the Galaxy games doesn't really prevent anybody from having fun with them because nobody cares. It's Mario, and he's in space. The story is literally just there to justify him being in space. Does a game about a plumber rescuing a princess from the clutches of a giant dragon-turtle-thing really need a deep, involved, complex story? People already can't stand the implications of Bowser's son in Sunshine.
Of course, I said "platform games" because the Mario stories in the RPGs obviously get a lot more work since they're a much bigger part of the game (and are one of the best parts of said games). But if you're expecting Peach to not get kidnapped in a Mario game, then, well, you're kind of dumb. Just not gonna lie.
Having said all that, New Super Mario Bros. 2 is a huge disappointment because there was literally nothing in it to distinguish it from other Mario games except the cannon levels. Of which there are five.
There's a distinct difference between Zelda and Mario platformers that isn't just gameplay. Mario could care less about his platformer stories because his stories aren't why we play his platform games, and if they are why you play his platform games, then, well, no wonder you're disappointed. What is wrong with you, etc. etc..
Zelda doesn't have a huge emphasis on story either as evidenced by Zelda being the kidnap victim in 100% of the games she's in and the timeline literally just being put together because nobody would shut the hell up about it, but they definitely force it on a lot more because there's prose. Cutscenes to advance the plot. Cinematics and words and the like. And some of the stories, like Wind Waker, Majora's Mask, and Link's Awakening, are great. If the story is bad, like in Twilight Princess, then the game as a whole kind of suffers for it. Whereas in Mario, cutscenes are pretty much delegated to showing how Bowser kidnaps Peach and how you are going to get her back. Sunshine differs in that regard a bit because it has a story that they kind of put effort into but nobody seemed to like it. But a paper-thin story in the Galaxy games doesn't really prevent anybody from having fun with them because nobody cares. It's Mario, and he's in space. The story is literally just there to justify him being in space. Does a game about a plumber rescuing a princess from the clutches of a giant dragon-turtle-thing really need a deep, involved, complex story? People already can't stand the implications of Bowser's son in Sunshine.
Of course, I said "platform games" because the Mario stories in the RPGs obviously get a lot more work since they're a much bigger part of the game (and are one of the best parts of said games). But if you're expecting Peach to not get kidnapped in a Mario game, then, well, you're kind of dumb. Just not gonna lie.
Having said all that, New Super Mario Bros. 2 is a huge disappointment because there was literally nothing in it to distinguish it from other Mario games except the cannon levels. Of which there are five.
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