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Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time
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(05-23-2013, 11:12 AM)PrettyNier Wrote: sprites and backgrounds apparently do not need memory
apparently games before the n64 did not have sounds
never claimed they didn't, I listed what a 3d game needed, albeit there's probably a lot more. thanks for taking what I said the wrong way.

(05-23-2013, 11:12 AM)PrettyNier Wrote: the tools were perfectly competent: just as the tools of the snes were competent, just as the tools of the genesis were competent, just as the tools of the nes were competent; this only applies in instances prior where the restrictions are so limited that it severely dampens the sort of experience a game can give you (atari, etc) and in instances where the technology Is Literally Busted and impossible to work with.

except I said why the tools were bad; they were heavily limiting on 3d software because of the intense strain. sacrifices would obviously have to be made to guarantee a playable game, and this is what made the tools flawed; now with more processing power and functions, we can literally create anything, since the limits now apply graphically rather than a lack of memory for some extra gameplay features or more content. I also said why 2d games, debuted mostly on those consoles you named, had so much more in terms of content, regardless of whether they had to store backgrounds, sounds, etc. they required less processing, thus were less limited as to what they could do.

(05-23-2013, 11:12 AM)PrettyNier Wrote: look, buddy; you're not reasoning your points well. take a breather and consider - and please, go back and read through my posts, because your responses thus far have either just been retreading ground already covered or
you flew over the point of my post to point out, what, that I somehow claimed that sounds and backgrounds are nonexistant? to restate what I already knew what you said?

(05-23-2013, 11:12 AM)PrettyNier Wrote: quality is an aspect of all of the elements of that product. the product itself does not change. suggesting that a game (like ocarina of time) itself can change from being 'good' to 'bad' is incredibly silly because it's suggesting that something within the game changed to make it so. if we perceive a game as being good when it is actually bad, or a game as bad when it is actually good, that is a matter of either lack of knowledge or lack of understanding.
I liked OoC when i played it a few years back, then hated the game and it's 3ds remake. for me, the change occured because I could recognize the limits; I saw why things worked, didn't work, and that spoiled the magic from when I was younger and barely touched programming. the quality never degraded, but that is determined by the player; for me, the things that ruined the quality are entirely different to someone else who hates/likes the game; yes, there are obvious things that make the game lack quality, but most of it is up to the person rather than the game itself.
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Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Koh - 05-19-2013, 09:53 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Gors - 05-19-2013, 10:00 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Koh - 05-19-2013, 10:16 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Zero Kirby - 05-19-2013, 10:48 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Koh - 05-19-2013, 11:33 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Zero Kirby - 05-19-2013, 12:04 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by water dog - 05-19-2013, 03:08 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Lemonray - 05-19-2013, 11:32 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by DioShiba - 05-19-2013, 03:32 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Sevenstitch - 05-19-2013, 12:29 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Koh - 05-19-2013, 01:04 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by AuraLancer - 05-19-2013, 12:54 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Lemonray - 05-19-2013, 01:57 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Koh - 05-19-2013, 03:17 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Lemonray - 05-19-2013, 04:10 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Koh - 05-19-2013, 04:15 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by PrettyNier - 05-19-2013, 04:16 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by DioShiba - 05-19-2013, 05:22 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by water dog - 05-21-2013, 09:29 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by alexmach1 - 05-22-2013, 11:15 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Kriven - 05-22-2013, 11:22 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by alexmach1 - 05-22-2013, 11:33 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Sevenstitch - 05-19-2013, 05:17 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by PrettyNier - 05-19-2013, 06:32 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Zero Kirby - 05-19-2013, 09:02 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Koh - 05-20-2013, 07:02 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Gors - 05-20-2013, 07:08 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Gors - 05-22-2013, 08:40 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by water dog - 05-21-2013, 06:55 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Koh - 05-21-2013, 08:38 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by PrettyNier - 05-22-2013, 10:47 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by water dog - 05-23-2013, 05:45 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Kriven - 05-22-2013, 11:47 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by alexmach1 - 05-23-2013, 12:02 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Kriven - 05-23-2013, 12:03 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by PrettyNier - 05-23-2013, 11:12 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by alexmach1 - 05-23-2013, 07:04 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Gors - 05-23-2013, 11:35 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by PrettyNier - 05-23-2013, 11:52 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Gors - 05-23-2013, 11:59 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by PrettyNier - 05-23-2013, 10:17 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by alexmach1 - 05-25-2013, 10:41 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by PrettyNier - 05-25-2013, 11:55 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by PrettyNier - 05-25-2013, 03:52 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by alexmach1 - 05-25-2013, 05:26 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by PrettyNier - 05-25-2013, 05:29 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by alexmach1 - 05-25-2013, 06:07 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by PrettyNier - 05-25-2013, 06:45 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by PrettyNier - 05-25-2013, 08:19 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Zero Kirby - 05-26-2013, 01:11 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by TomGuycott - 05-25-2013, 08:52 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by PrettyNier - 05-26-2013, 09:05 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by TomGuycott - 05-27-2013, 02:10 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Marth - 05-27-2013, 01:15 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Koh - 05-27-2013, 03:55 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Gors - 05-27-2013, 02:07 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Gors - 05-27-2013, 02:59 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Marth - 05-27-2013, 05:10 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Koh - 05-27-2013, 05:36 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Gors - 05-28-2013, 07:16 AM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by Koopaul - 05-28-2013, 11:17 PM
RE: Koh -Vs- Ocarina of Time - by AuraLancer - 05-29-2013, 01:52 AM

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