05-25-2013, 10:41 AM
why would you edit your post with a vague contrast? what was wrong with what you said before?
you said I was reaching silly conclusions with less understanding? what about you? you claim that the devs could have done so much more, but I don't see how you would possibly justify that without knowing what they could and could not do; my point was that their tools limited what they could do, and that what they created was quite possibly the best they could do with what they had, essentially "working with their technology" as you had said. what I'm trying to say(and what you are continually rebutting with the same excuses) is that saying they could have done more is ignorant, akin to asking a legless man to climb a mountain; they could not have done more without putting a massive dent into what they already have. additionally, comparing OoC to other 3d games that came out afterwards would be pointless, as the differences with their engines would be like comparing halo 3 to crysis. further comparing OoC to MM would be pointless as well since, as Koh pointed out, MM required the expansion pack which released some of the pressure on devs to make things optimized.
you also say that you flew past my point because it was pointless, yet how would you know if you flew past it? that is, as you condescendingly put it, "ultimately pointless". if you simply fly over points in an argument, regardless of their validity, then there is no argument to be had.
also, sighing with text is also ultimately pointless.
(05-23-2013, 10:17 PM)PrettyNier Wrote: you're repeating the same thing i said with less understanding of it and reaching silly conclusions
you said I was reaching silly conclusions with less understanding? what about you? you claim that the devs could have done so much more, but I don't see how you would possibly justify that without knowing what they could and could not do; my point was that their tools limited what they could do, and that what they created was quite possibly the best they could do with what they had, essentially "working with their technology" as you had said. what I'm trying to say(and what you are continually rebutting with the same excuses) is that saying they could have done more is ignorant, akin to asking a legless man to climb a mountain; they could not have done more without putting a massive dent into what they already have. additionally, comparing OoC to other 3d games that came out afterwards would be pointless, as the differences with their engines would be like comparing halo 3 to crysis. further comparing OoC to MM would be pointless as well since, as Koh pointed out, MM required the expansion pack which released some of the pressure on devs to make things optimized.
you also say that you flew past my point because it was pointless, yet how would you know if you flew past it? that is, as you condescendingly put it, "ultimately pointless". if you simply fly over points in an argument, regardless of their validity, then there is no argument to be had.
also, sighing with text is also ultimately pointless.