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What Character would you like to see in a Smash Bros Game?
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(04-28-2015, 11:36 AM)Ridge Troopa Wrote: If we're being serious now, Yoshi's a... Yoshi, really. Usually he's referred to as a dinosaur, hence Dinosaur Land from SMW. That thing on his back is a saddle, it's pretty evident if you look at his earlier artworks.

Hello gents - if you would so kindly allow me to participate in the discussion regarding the origins of Yoshi's saddle. I would like to remind you that I am a seasoned Yoshologist.

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 I've received my doctorate in Yoshi lexicon, versed both in official canon and speculative "fanon" from "Luna's Neo Yoshi Aurorium" in 1996. The NYA is a prestiged institute which, sadly, has degraded over the years, now home to poor sods who choose to intensely fetishize over the Yoshi character. Once again, let us discuss the growth on Yoshi's lower back, which has been the hotbed of controversy for many a diehard Nintendo fan.

As it pains me so, I must agree with Kriven's statement:


(04-28-2015, 07:56 AM)Kriven Wrote:
(04-28-2015, 05:12 AM)E-Man Wrote: and even consider a Yoshi-Koopa hybrid to be a canon character in the Mario universe.

Isn't Yoshi actually supposed to be some kind of Koopa-related creature? His saddle is really a highly stylized shell (it's even stupidly round in some games), and he's the only "good" character capable of using the Parawings.

I'm pretty sure I remember an interview where Miyamoto talked about Yoshi as being a "good Koopa". At least during the conceptual stages.




Allow me to present exhibit A: Yoshi's likeness, present and observable in Super Mario World.

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Please, take note of Yoshi's back, sternly, and pose to yourself the question: what the actual subjective fuck is this thing supposed to be?
Well, that's easy - it's an offshoot of Exhibit B1: the Rexes, the other dinosaur from Super Mario World.
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Now, take a look at this thing, and take a look at Mario dominating the shit out of it and his next-of-kin. Note that they possess many of the same features of Yoshi - a rounded nose, slightly arced backs, spikes. However, it bears other things use primarily for self-defense: a horn, fangs and a set of wings. However, they're some of the first characters Mario encounters and defeats, and are found primarily on Yoshi's Island. I think you see where I'm getting at. We'll return to this later.

Lettuce also view another denizen of Dinosaur Land, the Dino Rhino: Exhibit B2. This gent has nothing to do with Yoshi, but he's green and has spikes on his back.
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I have no argument over this sorry character what the fuck is this thing.
Let's return to Yoshi:

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Now, if the object on his back is a saddle, this begs the question: who domesticated the Yoshi species?

The answer is no one. They're merely poor sods called out by evolution, similar to horses...except its fate was spelled out from the beginning, due to its small shell and equine stature; a generally sad, helpless folk and the poor thing was limited to the dozens, only to make a verbal pact with Mario upon its discovery. Which begs the question: who the hell taught these dinosaurs to speak and act beyond instinct?


Now, remember these guys?
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These "Rex" creatures overran Yoshi's Island, dashing like madmen around the island like they owned the place, until Mario came into the picture.
The truth behind the matter is there was yet another driving force here: Bowser and his seven adopted children were just seeking refuge, allowing natural selection to continue as normal with more suitable denizen to make their place in the Dinosaur Land ecosystem, all while colonizing the area to make life sustainable for the remnants of his army (but of course, paying careful respect to the other citizens of the island, such as the Wiggler and the Rex creatures).

Alright look what I'm trying to say is that Yoshi's a sad little shit who asked Mario to aid him in starting a revolution and the fat plumbers assisted in a massive coup d'etat and allowed the Yoshi species to flourish in Dinosaur land so successfully that their expansion to places beyond Dinosaur Land: Isle Delfino, the Mushroom Kingdom, and even outer space and children's literature - meanwhile, the entirety of Dinosaur Land's population was wiped out upon the Yoshi species' greediness. It was a turf war between Yoshis and Rexes, and thanks to some dumpass plumber the Rex species has completely died out and that's why you haven't seen them since SMW. Mario killed them all.

Mario fanboy Wrote:What about the Baby Yoshis, Kosheh?
Look how useless these sorry sods look.
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They literally cannot walk at birth. All they can do is waddle and they do it at like a snail's pace.

I don't fucking know. When they're babies their spine is extremely vulnerable...and when Yoshis eat too much their growth cycle rockets forward and they develop protection from the other creatures on the island by developing a protective shell over their most crucial area of their spine, so Mario needs to play Hungry Hungry Hippos to get them to grow and not be shitty babies so he can jump on their back and ride them to further destroy the Dinosaur Land countryside. Who fucking cares about baby Yoshis though maybe if Mario didn't FUCKING FEED THEM ALL we wouldn't HAVE THIS GODAWFUL YOSHI INFESTATION

Mario fanboy Wrote:BUT WHAT ABOUT NEW SUPER MARIO BROS U THEY DONT GROW WHEN YOU FEED THEM
Please shut up. They've been retconned to have different abilities at birth and now they don't grow when you feed that. I guess that's what happens when your populace is no longer dying huh

Oh yeah, and the thing on Yoshi's back is a shell and Yoshi is not a Koopa because he lived there before Koopas were a thing. Mario just saw the depressing little creature and quickly capitalized on the situation and things just kinda worked out for everyone there. Also Yoshi's literally a useless creature in SMW but wasn't in SMW2 (because Yoshi's Island wasn't yet overrun by Koopas and shitty dinosaurs; Koopa turtles were still the vast minority along with Goombas, it was still mostly birds, spiked things and lake monsters)

sorry to waste your time everyone

(04-28-2015, 07:58 AM)E-Man Wrote:

This fancharacter is a Mario enthusiast in denial.


(04-28-2015, 05:12 AM)E-Man Wrote: Actually, it's a thing on Lemmy's Land that Peach and Daisy are related. In addition to that, they consider Wart Bowser's brother, gave him two Koopalings/Koopa Kids of his own (Nick and Susan), and even consider a Yoshi-Koopa hybrid to be a canon character in the Mario universe.

FKLDJSJGKSJG EXCUSE ME
you just named your seven adopted children after ROCKSTARS and he sells off the two children he didn't like to Wart and names them NICK and SUSAN of all things
WHAT EVEN IS THIS SUPPOSED TO MEAN excuse me if you're gonna name Koopalings like that the only correct names for them are BONO KOOPA and ALICE KOOPA

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RE: What Character would you like to see in a Smash Bros Game? - by Kosheh - 04-29-2015, 10:15 AM

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