honestly, as someone who has never elder scrolls, I really think Skyrim just looks like WoW with better graphics

(12-18-2011, 05:02 PM)Zac Wrote: honestly, as someone who has never elder scrolls, I really think Skyrim just looks like WoW with better graphics

I don't find "I never played Elder Scrolls" to be a noteworthy excuse. As I've never played one before Skyrim myself, and I think that statement is the most silly thing. It's primarily a firstperson game too.

I used to be obsessed with the Elder Scrolls games, then I took an arrow to the knee. (;

(12-18-2011, 11:55 PM)Keychain Wrote:

(12-18-2011, 05:02 PM)Zac Wrote: honestly, as someone who has never elder scrolls, I really think Skyrim just looks like WoW with better graphics

I don't find "I never played Elder Scrolls" to be a noteworthy excuse. As I've never played one before Skyrim myself, and I think that statement is the most silly thing. It's primarily a firstperson game too.

not an excuse, I don't need an excuse
I was just explaining that my uneducated first impression was just that
the entire running around the forest talking to random mid evil folk struck me as some wow stuff, unless there is some constant theme in the elder scrolls series that ties it together
I can't imagining skyrim being any better then Fallout 3 whether I'm right or not anyway though

and again i ask

me, shit lord Wrote:so what exactly about this game is "good"

and my opinion is more important because i've played elder scrolls a little and watched friends play it and actually know things about it (and game design as a whole)

(12-19-2011, 12:51 AM)Zac Wrote: not an excuse, I don't need an excuse
I was just explaining that my uneducated first impression was just that
the entire running around the forest talking to random mid evil folk struck me as some wow stuff, unless there is some constant theme in the elder scrolls series that ties it together
I can't imagining skyrim being any better then Fallout 3 whether I'm right or not anyway though

You'd just have to play it for yourself. I can't really explain it! It's just flat-out fun and as someone who's never played an Elder Scrolls game and isn't really into giant-sized world MMO's, I think that says a little something. At least for me it does, because I wasn't expecting much when I first played it (I got it for TF2 items so I wouldn't have minded either way.) And I thoroughly enjoyed it for a whopping 150 hours until I decided to put it down and got bored.

(12-19-2011, 10:52 AM)Gnostic WetFart Wrote:

me, shit lord Wrote:so what exactly about this game is "good"

its got CUSTOMIZATION!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!! AND OPEN WORLDS OMG.... YOUCAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT

Anyway,

Woo, the sarcasm in your post is thick Tyvon :p . But what I find awesome about this game is how gigantic the world really is, the detail put into the game, and all the dungeon crawling I could imagine. Skyward Sword is still my Goty, but yeah, it's just fun :L

yeah but all of that is ultimately meaningless
its a world populated by a lot of really light meaningless things to do to pass the time. the dungeons are largely uninteresting because they're mostly just the same things over and over again, and the combat (i think this also applies to almost everything else in the game, as well) is about as visceral as watching someone else standing over a toilet trying to aim a shit into it and only occasionally hitting

and thats ignoring that nothing in the game is stylistically interesting in the least
its just nordic/generic fantasy, with very little deviation or identity

I frackin love Nordic fantasy
Also, yes this is just from watching, but the story is very involved, and my friends when dungeoning found many different, intricate places filled with their very own challenge. But it really does come dow nto preference, and yes the combat is not the best, I'll give that to Skyward Sword

Quote:I frackin love Nordic fantasy

and i'm not saying there's anything wrong with nordic fantasy; what i'm saying is boring is that they don't do anything with it; the nordic elements are good, but the fantasy elements still hold it down because its really no better than R.A. Salvatore level stuff (who is an awful writer (the writing in this game is also awful)).

please describe how the dungeons were all different and unique and worthwhile.

also justify the disconnect between dragons as a world altering force in-narrative and dragons being weaker than cave-bears in game

Quote:But it really does come dow nto preference

whether one likes it or not, perhaps. not so much when it comes to the objective qualities therein.

Quote: I'll give that to Skyward Sword

i'm not sure you can reasonably make this statement without having played Dark Souls.

(12-21-2011, 01:41 PM)Gnostic WetFart Wrote:

Quote:I frackin love Nordic fantasy

and i'm not saying there's anything wrong with nordic fantasy; what i'm saying is boring is that they don't do anything with it; the nordic elements are good, but the fantasy elements still hold it down because its really no better than R.A. Salvatore level stuff (who is an awful writer (the writing in this game is also awful)).

please describe how the dungeons were all different and unique and worthwhile.

also justify the disconnect between dragons as a world altering force in-narrative and dragons being weaker than cave-bears in game

Quote:But it really does come dow nto preference

whether one likes it or not, perhaps. not so much when it comes to the objective qualities therein.

Quote: I'll give that to Skyward Sword

i'm not sure you can reasonably make this statement without having played Dark Souls.

I've played the previous, and although I'm sure they updated combat, I feel I can assuredly say that I enjoy Skyward Swords' combat more. The fact that enemies actually use their weapons and don't just wait for me to hit them is so radular. I also get so into the combat.

Quote:The fact that enemies actually use their weapons and don't just wait for me to hit them is so radular.

what does this statement mean
are you trying to suggest enemies in demon's or dark souls don't do this?
are you trying to suggest that previous enemies in zelda games didn't do that?

because neither of those are really the case, less so the former than the latter
and the statement doesn't have any actually meaning beyond that

(12-21-2011, 02:13 PM)Gnostic WetFart Wrote:

Quote:The fact that enemies actually use their weapons and don't just wait for me to hit them is so radular.

what does this statement mean
are you trying to suggest enemies in demon's or dark souls don't do this?
are you trying to suggest that previous enemies in zelda games didn't do that?

because neither of those are really the case, less so the former than the latter
and the statement doesn't have any actually meaning beyond that

Previous Zelda games enemies are practically asking you to hit them, they just waiver around you and OCCASIONALLY strike, and I never said Demon Souls or Dark Souls does that, you're taking what I like about Skyward Sword so much as an attack on the games you prefer, which I'm not. I'm just saying that I LOVE how involved I get in playing Skyward Sword and how I get absorbed into the game and feel for everything.