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NICKtendo DS · 08-17-2013, 05:22 AM

Quite a bunch of items in Smash Bros. are OP, like the Hammer and Golden Hammer.

I'm hoping the Red Shell returns. I don't get why it was cut from Brawl.

Koopaul · 08-17-2013, 09:14 AM

I would cut the Golden Hammer. Its pretty silly to have an even MORE powerful version of an already powerful item. It doesn't even do anything that different. I'd also cut the Super Spicey Curry and Dragoon. I think there are too many Mario and Kirby items, and a lot of them are no fun.

**Ton** · 08-17-2013, 11:10 AM

(08-17-2013, 05:22 AM)NICKtendo DS Wrote: Quite a bunch of items in Smash Bros. are OP, like the Hammer and Golden Hammer.

I'm hoping the Red Shell returns. I don't get why it was cut from Brawl.

It was cut because the Fireball thing is pretty much the same idea. I'm all for the Red shell returning though.

NICKtendo DS · (This post was last modified: 08-17-2013, 11:45 AM by NICKtendo DS.)

(08-17-2013, 11:10 AM)Ton Wrote:
(08-17-2013, 05:22 AM)NICKtendo DS Wrote: Quite a bunch of items in Smash Bros. are OP, like the Hammer and Golden Hammer.

I'm hoping the Red Shell returns. I don't get why it was cut from Brawl.

It was cut because the Fireball thing is pretty much the same idea. I'm all for the Red shell returning though.

Hot Head was slightly similar, but not the same. Hot Head is predictable while the Red Shell is chaotic. Hot Head is also safe for friendly players while the Red Shell brings pain to the whole party.
I prefer the Red Shell, but I can't see why those two need to be seperate.

@Koopaul: I won't miss the Spicy Curry and Dragoon. The Curry is just an OP version of the Fire Flower in a sense that it essentially the same, but allows you attack as well (but you can't throw it, talk about a trade off!!!). The idea of the Dragoon is fun, but executed it's obsolete due to the Smash Ball, which takes the spotlight as the "item to fight for".

One little bit of wishful thinking: I hope the laser gun will finally be replaced by the NES Zapper.

Gwen · 08-17-2013, 01:55 PM

I don't know, I loved the Dragoon, my friends and I would beat the shit out of each other just for the chance to pull it off.

Marth · 08-17-2013, 04:55 PM

Dragoon is an awesome item simply because it inspires more competition. While the Smash Ball does the same thing, Dragoon comes in pieces and puts one's skills to the test as to whether or not they're strong enough to hold onto each piece and complete it. Admittedly some cheap shit can happen and some guy who has no idea what he's doing may accidently get it.

Koopaul · 08-18-2013, 03:29 AM

I guess its because its in three parts while the Smash Ball is just one thing. Something about juggling those three parts and knock them out and around is not such a good switch in the gameplay.

My other problem is that its the most powerful item next to the Smash Ball... but its not a series neutral item. Its a Kirby item. Meaning the Kirby series has some sort of special status over the other series.

Mutsukki · (This post was last modified: 08-18-2013, 03:49 AM by Mutsukki.)

I really liked the Dragoon too. Same simple concept as the item in Kirby's Air Ride and it works. Super Spicy Curry I don't really care though. Neither Red Shell because I just realized now that it was even cut out from Brawl, lol. It was a really shitty and unfair item.

(08-18-2013, 03:29 AM)Koopaul Wrote: Its a Kirby item. Meaning the Kirby series has some sort of special status over the other series.

There aren't even that many Kirby items. The Super Star is also there and it grants total immunity, so I don't get your point at all. It took Sakurai a really long time just to represent -his own series- in the game more than just Kirby and some handful of items

Vitesse · 08-18-2013, 05:08 AM

(08-18-2013, 03:47 AM)Mutsukki Wrote: I really liked the Dragoon too. Same simple concept as the item in Kirby's Air Ride and it works. Super Spicy Curry I don't really care though. Neither Red Shell because I just realized now that it was even cut out from Brawl, lol. It was a really shitty and unfair item.

(08-18-2013, 03:29 AM)Koopaul Wrote: Its a Kirby item. Meaning the Kirby series has some sort of special status over the other series.

There aren't even that many Kirby items. The Super Star is also there and it grants total immunity, so I don't get your point at all. It took Sakurai a really long time just to represent -his own series- in the game more than just Kirby and some handful of items

Ummmmm... No. There a lot of Kirby items. Let's count, shall we? Maxim Tomato, Star Rod, Warp Star, Parasol, Superspicy Curry and Dragoon. That's six. Let's compare that amount to the amount of items from the Zelda series. Y'know, one of Nintendo's most popular and best selling IPs. There's the Heart Container, Bunny Hood and Deku Nut. Three. That's half the amount of Kirby's items.

Anyway, I have an interesting topic. Now that Mega Evolutions have been announced for Pokemon, Mewtwo and Lucario both have a great chance of making a return to the next Smash Bros. But since a lot of other Pokemon have been given Mega Evolutions, they all have a great chance of becoming playable too. Namely, Blaziken. And discuss.

Baegal · (This post was last modified: 08-18-2013, 12:09 PM by Baegal.)

I honestly believe Mewtwo is replacing Lucario because he's been given such the spotlight recently (Actually I thought that ever since we were only teased with the new 'form').
Either his MegaEvolution only or a switch off either like Zelda/Sheik or Samus and her zero suit form.

As for other megas, I HIGHLY doubt it.

DioShiba · 08-18-2013, 02:53 PM

Now far as the red shell being a crappy item I disagree. With how chaotic it was brought in a whole new level of game play where you had to rely on impulse before it disappeared. The only useless item was the invisibility cloak because you could still see your guy if you pay attention to where your guy is, And if other people saw you your screwed.

Dragoon is fun for the same reason smash ball is, it's an item to fight for and unlike final smashes, you are garrunteed to ko your openent unlike most final smashes if you aim right.

Mutsukki · 08-18-2013, 05:34 PM

(08-18-2013, 05:08 AM)Vitesse Wrote:
(08-18-2013, 03:47 AM)Mutsukki Wrote: I really liked the Dragoon too. Same simple concept as the item in Kirby's Air Ride and it works. Super Spicy Curry I don't really care though. Neither Red Shell because I just realized now that it was even cut out from Brawl, lol. It was a really shitty and unfair item.

(08-18-2013, 03:29 AM)Koopaul Wrote: Its a Kirby item. Meaning the Kirby series has some sort of special status over the other series.

There aren't even that many Kirby items. The Super Star is also there and it grants total immunity, so I don't get your point at all. It took Sakurai a really long time just to represent -his own series- in the game more than just Kirby and some handful of items

Ummmmm... No. There a lot of Kirby items. Let's count, shall we? Maxim Tomato, Star Rod, Warp Star, Parasol, Superspicy Curry and Dragoon. That's six. Let's compare that amount to the amount of items from the Zelda series. Y'know, one of Nintendo's most popular and best selling IPs. There's the Heart Container, Bunny Hood and Deku Nut. Three. That's half the amount of Kirby's items.

Anyway, I have an interesting topic. Now that Mega Evolutions have been announced for Pokemon, Mewtwo and Lucario both have a great chance of making a return to the next Smash Bros. But since a lot of other Pokemon have been given Mega Evolutions, they all have a great chance of becoming playable too. Namely, Blaziken. And discuss.

Except Zelda had like 4 characters in Melee and Kirby had...you know, 1.

It's still Sakurai's game, maybe the items were to compensate the lack of his own characters (I honestly forgot the Parasol and Warp Star).

SchAlternate · 08-18-2013, 07:23 PM

Y'know what bothers me? The Smash Ball. That thing is one big flaw.

Warning: Huge ass rant incoming

...Sorry for the wall of text, I just had to vent sooner or later.

Gwen · 08-18-2013, 07:31 PM

(08-17-2013, 01:55 PM)Radular Raptor Wrote: I don't know, I loved the Dragoon, my friends and I would beat the shit out of each other just for the chance to pull it off.

This applies to the Smash Ball for me as well.

AuraLancer · 08-18-2013, 08:01 PM

I love the Smash Ball and fighting for it, but I hate the Dragoon and fighting for it. The Dragoon just feels cheaper to me, it's the only item I turn off.

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