You could always do Mr. Stevenson from Gumshoe. He's plenty obscure.

Cant wait to see them, also the sad thing on the limitations also means no Pikachu, but I understand the need to keep it consistant.

Whew! And with some of the more obscure characters out of the way, I think it's time to return to the bigger franchises to add more characters. I went ahead and restructured the roster and removed the palettes, because they seemed kind of pointless. Can you name all of these classic Nintendo characters?



Ah, one thing, though...I can't help but feel my anatomy on Devil and Excitebiker is a little off. Could I get some input on those two?

(02-07-2015, 09:24 PM)Shade Wrote: Bowser's body seems too fat/thick, the gray on R.O.B. also makes him look a bit dark. Otherwise, these look really cool!

Done aaand done! The difference might not be huge, but Bowser's about 6 pixels thinner now.

(02-07-2015, 09:46 PM)Virt Wrote: I'd recommend making Little Mac's blue darker and changing the green from the duck to a magenta.

Well...Tthat blue was the darkest color I had next to black, and I haaaate using black in my sprites because it makes characters blend in with black backgrounds. I went ahead and swapped those blues for a dark cyan, which is perceptually a little closer to black.

once again these are great it looks like the excite bikers arms are a little long compared to the base of them atleast and his back is two arched im headed out now but I think ill take a better look when I get back once again they look great

I think Duck Hunt Dogs expression is dull. He looks tired.

a couple of things on the devil is that I feel the eyes should take up a little more space on the head and the horns should be a little more straight up

My palette edit for the duck. I don't know why you have its palette shared with Little Mac. The duck doesn't even have green.

You've got quite the roster there now! I was pleasantly surprised to see Mike Jones in there. When I saw you wanted games from 1989 and prior, I didn't suggested him based on that. With that said, I'm surprised Marth hasn't made an appearance yet. His game came out in Japan in Spring 1990, before Mike Jone's game did near the end of 1990. (StarTropic didn't even make it to Japan, I think.)

I do have a suggestion for Mach Rider. To me, he is the "Capt. Falcon" of what would be the NES Smash. I just think that he should be a few pixels taller than Samus and his back should be more define.
Here is a quick edit to show what I mean, hope that's ok.
 

Everything is looking really good though!

Normally I like to address issues with updates, but there are quite a few things to say so I'll give an update with just the tweaks and layout change.

(02-08-2015, 11:25 PM)Kyleglor Wrote: once again these are great it looks like the excite bikers arms are a little long  compared to the base of them
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a couple of things on the devil is that I feel the eyes should take up a little more space on the head and the horns should be a little more straight up

Well...When drawing Excitebiker, I used a real-life motocross rider as a pose reference. But Excitebiker had a more upright pose, so I'll change the sprite for the sake of accuracy. I'll make a tweak or two to Devil.

(02-08-2015, 11:35 PM)Joxon Wrote: I think Duck Hunt Dogs expression is dull. He looks tired.

Done! I wanted to give him a dopey look but I suppose you're right.

(02-09-2015, 06:46 AM)Virt Wrote:
My palette edit for the duck. I don't know why you have its palette shared with Little Mac. The duck doesn't even have green.

Both the Duck Hunt duck and Little Mac have black in their designs. And when drawing NES sprites, I like to use dark shades as a substitute for black so that they don't blend into backgrounds. Personally, I prefer the green-blue-yellow duck because all of those colors are adjacent on the color wheel, while blue-magenta-yellow can create some eyeburn.

(02-09-2015, 11:26 AM)Natis Wrote: You've got quite the roster there now! I was pleasantly surprised to see Mike Jones in there. When I saw you wanted games from 1989 and prior, I didn't suggested him based on that. With that said, I'm surprised Marth hasn't made an appearance yet. His game came out in Japan in Spring 1990, before Mike Jone's game did near the end of 1990. (StarTropic didn't even make it to Japan, I think.)

Well...I originally wanted to have 1989 as the cutoff date, but that would mean excluding Kirby, so I decided to accept any 1st-party character on the NES. I went ahead and ordered all of the characters by their release date, so the viewer can decide what cutoff date they want for themselves. Was SSBD released in 1989? Only include Ninten and all the characters to the left!

As for Mach Rider...yeah. He should be a bit taller. Thanks for the feedback!

One of the duck hunt ducks has black, yes, but not the duck that accompanies the dog in Smash Bros.
I thought you were going for accuracy to how the characters appear, but your argument is also valid. So if you want to go with that design, it's coolio, Julio.

The raised ends on Peachs dress bothers me. In most Mario games, the dress goes all the way to the ground and with a little more to spare. And if thats supposed to be on a 3D/2.5D plane, then any other character looks like it's only on a 2D plane.

^ also this about peach I couldn't figure out how to word it but the dress at the bottom seemed off to me

(02-09-2015, 05:18 PM)Virt Wrote: One of the duck hunt ducks has black, yes, but not the duck that accompanies the dog in Smash Bros.
I thought you were going for accuracy to how the characters appear, but your argument is also valid. So if you want to go with that design, it's coolio, Julio.

I believe his designs are based on there sole nes appearences and back then the dog wasn't pared with a certain duck by colors

The dress bottom does look off, now that I look at it. It looks like it has perspective while none of the other sprites do. The bottoms of them are flat.

The pink and blue duck still did exist, though, Kyleglor. It does make sense as well to use the green and black duck, considering it was the duck used on the box art of the game.

Three more characters for this update! I'd ideally like to update once every row, but since it's the middle of the week things will be going more slowly.



I'm happy with how Hikari and Meta Knight turned out, but I'm really not sure about Ganon. As always, drawing larger characters is a struggle for me due to my general ignorance of basic anatomy. For Ganon, I was using this as my reference. Hmm...maybe if I rotated his hand like this, it would look more natural?



And yes, I'm aware Meta Knight looks incredibly doofy and the design of Galaxia is wrong. That's just how he looked like in Kirby's Adventure.

(02-09-2015, 05:23 PM)Joxon Wrote: The raised ends on Peachs dress bothers me. In most Mario games, the dress goes all the way to the ground and with a little more to spare. And if thats supposed to be on a 3D/2.5D plane, then any other character looks like it's only on a 2D plane.

I went ahead and flattened the bottom of Peach's dress. I originally drew it flat on the ground, but that looked rather static to me. This might be a good compromise. Oh, and you only need to mention it once, people. ^^;

Something I'm curious about...how come some of the characters are at a quarter angle, while others are at a perfect profile angle?