(10-12-2012, 12:25 PM)Kriven Wrote: No you didn't. People have a right to bitch when someone presents a totally different character and tries to convince you it's the same character you know and love.

If the game is fun and good, that's great, I might even like it. Don't you dare tell me that this bloke is Dante, though.

(10-15-2012, 07:21 PM)Rai Wrote:

(10-12-2012, 12:25 PM)Kriven Wrote: No you didn't. People have a right to bitch when someone presents a totally different character and tries to convince you it's the same character you know and love.

If the game is fun and good, that's great, I might even like it. Don't you dare tell me that this bloke is Dante, though.

I'd bet that the only reason for the redesign in Devil May Cry (Sorry, DmC, omagawd so ekstreem) was to distract people from the fact that it's been handed off to a studio that has yet to release a single good game.

BE MAD ABOUT THAT.

(10-15-2012, 07:21 PM)Rai Wrote:

(10-12-2012, 12:25 PM)Kriven Wrote: No you didn't. People have a right to bitch when someone presents a totally different character and tries to convince you it's the same character you know and love.

If the game is fun and good, that's great, I might even like it. Don't you dare tell me that this bloke is Dante, though.

I'd bet that the only reason for the redesign in Devil May Cry (Sorry, DmC, omagawd so ekstreem) was to distract people from the fact that it's been handed off to a studio that has yet to release a single good game.

BE MAD ABOUT THAT.

(10-17-2012, 06:52 PM)NICKtendo DS Wrote: I've only played DMC3 and seen my brother play 4.
I like Dante, be it for his over-the-top stereotype badassery, I don't care.
I don't like Nero, because he's basically Dante 3, but with different powers and personality. Kinda like Silver the Hedgehog in a way.
But the worse has to be the new design of Dante. They, along with their redesigned Dante, can die in a fire for butchering his appearance. At least SEGA had the decency to stay true to Sonic (and co.)'s features when they redesigned them for Adventure. Devil Trigger or not, Dante should never, ever, ever have black hair! (If I somehow missed him having black hair in the original quadrology, I'll take it back).
I don't even get where they're getting at with 'Hollywood standards'. That has to be the stupidest direction to take! Seen Hollywood movie adaptations of videogames? Then you'll know what I'm talking about.
End of rant.

Quote:Dante was well... not much of a character. He had the badass thing in the first 2 games (even if the second game was kinda meh) but in the third one he was too ott it might as well have been a different character and was only really the kind of 'cool' 10 year olds beat-off to. Yes he was younger but urgh, when I first played that game I was seriously annoyed with how stupid he was.

Quote:Enslaved was an awesome game.

Quote:its characters are ugly (despite the environments being pretty), the story's overhyped with regards to how good it is, it's mostly just good guys fighting bad guys and one of the good guys falls in love with the other ones (except maybe the ending, that was a slightly interesting direction they went there, i'll admit that), the combat is boring and mechanics that would completely change the flow of battle are unlockables, so they can't actually work them into the game in case the player doesn't buy them, and the platforming is a joke, you can literally just hold forward and mash X until the end
it's a "realistic" platformer which means that you basically climb a bunch of rungs on a ladder and you hold the stick in the direction of the next rung (which is always forward (always)) and press X and the rung lights up btw
near the end there's some things that actually require the tiniest, smallest degree of basic thought and skill and timing to them, barely
but it's literally
RIGHT at the END
the very last chapter of the game
which isn't very long
also you have an assload of health so you can kind of just shrug off the mistakes you make during those sections so actually they don't really matter anyway
imagine if mega man x had to be designed with wall clinging as an optional unlockable
that's what enslaved's combat is

Quote:I have no idea why Heavenly Sword gets so much hate (IGN failed to mention the block system so I assume they didn't know how to block) but regardless, Enslaved was an awesome game. It's story and characters were utterly amazing so with the budget they have now plus guidance from the 'awesome' capcom I have faith in them.

(10-17-2012, 07:09 PM)Hevy Devy Wrote: I actually like the new design a lot, he still gets white hair when in devil Trigger mode, and it kind of shows a more human side to him I think. Also what's wrong with black hair >:I

(10-17-2012, 07:41 PM)PrettyNier Wrote: goemar, i'm not sure you "get" devil may cry. like, really, really don't get it.

(10-17-2012, 07:41 PM)PrettyNier Wrote:

Quote:Dante was well... not much of a character. He had the badass thing in the first 2 games (even if the second game was kinda meh) but in the third one he was too ott it might as well have been a different character and was only really the kind of 'cool' 10 year olds beat-off to. Yes he was younger but urgh, when I first played that game I was seriously annoyed with how stupid he was.

The whole game is absurd, and it's completely self-aware of that fact; it doesn't have Dante fight a mob of demons while munching on a slice of pizza because it's completely and totally unironically badass. The whole premise of the scene is ridiculous, and the game treats it with a kind of self-awareness; it knows that it is ridiculous and as such pushes it as far as it can. It doesn't treat it one-hundred-percent seriously, in the way that, as you purport, 10-year olds would beat off to (also, dude, that is not an okay mental image), and coming to that conclusion is only feasible if one simply looks at a transcript of things that happens in the cutscenes and decides to leave it at that, content, because they "know what happens".

simply put: dmc3 is not at all like metroid prime 3 having a monster fall off a space station (through space (uh)) and get hit by a passing space ship and then explode.

(10-17-2012, 07:41 PM)PrettyNier Wrote: also, i'm not going to pretend dante is a Really Great Character with interesting development - he's not - but saying he "isn't a character" is kind of blatantly false considering there is a coherently defined personality and a semblance of development.

(10-17-2012, 07:41 PM)PrettyNier Wrote:

Quote:Enslaved was an awesome game.

you know, a good friend of mine played that game.

he said the following:

Quote:its characters are ugly (despite the environments being pretty), the story's overhyped with regards to how good it is, it's mostly just good guys fighting bad guys and one of the good guys falls in love with the other ones (except maybe the ending, that was a slightly interesting direction they went there, i'll admit that), the combat is boring and mechanics that would completely change the flow of battle are unlockables, so they can't actually work them into the game in case the player doesn't buy them, and the platforming is a joke, you can literally just hold forward and mash X until the end
it's a "realistic" platformer which means that you basically climb a bunch of rungs on a ladder and you hold the stick in the direction of the next rung (which is always forward (always)) and press X and the rung lights up btw
near the end there's some things that actually require the tiniest, smallest degree of basic thought and skill and timing to them, barely
but it's literally
RIGHT at the END
the very last chapter of the game
which isn't very long
also you have an assload of health so you can kind of just shrug off the mistakes you make during those sections so actually they don't really matter anyway
imagine if mega man x had to be designed with wall clinging as an optional unlockable
that's what enslaved's combat is

i don't know if i'd go so far as to say the characters are ugly: but there's definitely nothing positive that stands out about the designs