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Okay People, a Little Lesson! - Stirred Drei Ling - 05-22-2009
PEOPLE STOP TELLING OTHERS CUSTOMS ARE THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE FORM OF SPRITING
This was made because we can't seem to get it through our heads, even the people who do edit. If you feel I'm wrong on any point, say why.
1. Edits ARE acceptable when they are of the proper quality.
2. Edits CAN take as much effort as a custom.
3. Edits CAN be better than a custom.
4. Edits ARE an acceptable starting point in spriting.
5. Customs generally DO take more effort than an edit of equal quality.
6. Recolours are NOT OK, they lack any major kind of creativity.
7. Pixel-by-pixel copies are the equivalent of an effortless edit; regardless of how long it took.
Instead of bickering about edits and customs, encourage the person to try harder with what they feel comfortable, then progress them into customs if they didn't already choose that. If they are sub-par, edit or custom, then we need to tell them what they are doing wrong, which Shawn and 1up are doing excellently on. A matter of fact, we need more people critiquing like both of you, telling where the problems in the sprites are, instead of people just noting an obvious error that the creator should have already noticed.
But point five seems to contradict my arguement. Well point five has an exception. When a person becomes skilled enough in a certain style, scratching is simply easier to do than editing, meaning that it will actually take less effort. But if you were to start in a style you've never done before, the custom will take more work than the edit for obvious reasons.
There is no reason we should be combining customs and edits into similar scales, they should both have their own tiers that allow the sprite to be judged equally without responses that state your distaste in one type of spriting.
RE: Okay People, a Little Lesson! - Badassbill - 05-22-2009
(05-22-2009, 11:18 AM)Robo-Trainer Drei Wrote: 2. Edits CAN take as much effort as a custom.
3. Edits CAN be better than a custom.
No. Can't make it much clearer than that.
RE: Okay People, a Little Lesson! - Ton - 05-22-2009
I agree with Drei, actually. I've seen some terrible customs.
RE: Okay People, a Little Lesson! - Badassbill - 05-22-2009
(05-22-2009, 12:11 PM)Tonberry2k Wrote: I agree with Drei, actually. I've seen some terrible customs.
If it's subjective to who's making them, then yes. If it's someone who knows what they're doing, it's always custom > edits.
RE: Okay People, a Little Lesson! - Ton - 05-22-2009
Well, yes. But he didn't specify. In the right hands, an edit could be better than a custom, too. Xander did almost all edits, but people think he was a great spriter. Edits have gotten a bad rap lately, and I think it's pretty unwarranted.
RE: Okay People, a Little Lesson! - Mega_Virus - 05-22-2009
(05-22-2009, 12:26 PM)Badassbill Wrote:(05-22-2009, 12:11 PM)Tonberry2k Wrote: I agree with Drei, actually. I've seen some terrible customs.
If it's subjective to who's making them, then yes. If it's someone who knows what they're doing, it's always custom > edits.
I personnally like customs over altered ones even if its uglier than edited one because it show a personnality of the spriter and is something new and not boring like mario for instance it makes me sick to look at the custom mario's being presented here because most people base it off the original to where there almost identical.
RE: Okay People, a Little Lesson! - triptych - 05-22-2009
that post
makes my brain hurt so fucking hard
RE: Okay People, a Little Lesson! - King of Bad Posters - 05-22-2009
I dont like edits.
I have spoken
RE: Okay People, a Little Lesson! - DioShiba - 05-22-2009
I like edits as long as there well done and not shitly simple edits
and this needs to be stickied
RE: Okay People, a Little Lesson! - triptych - 05-22-2009
remove every post but the first post and THEN sticky and lock it
RE: Okay People, a Little Lesson! - DioShiba - 05-22-2009
(05-22-2009, 06:25 PM)Fuck Im Great Wrote: remove every post but the first post and THEN sticky and lock it
but what if some one has a suggestion for the list to bring up?
just sayin
RE: Okay People, a Little Lesson! - King of Bad Posters - 05-22-2009
Fuck that there nothing else to be said thought i dont agree with 2 and 3
RE: Okay People, a Little Lesson! - triptych - 05-22-2009
that's because you're an idiot
RE: Okay People, a Little Lesson! - DioShiba - 05-22-2009
(05-22-2009, 06:28 PM)King of Bad Posters Wrote: Fuck that there nothing else to be said thought i dont agree with 2 and 3
Aside from the most common excuses someone would say when there being over defensive and a reminder that splecies/fusions whatever there called are shit edits need to be brought up
RE: Okay People, a Little Lesson! - Shawn - 05-22-2009
(05-22-2009, 11:18 AM)Robo-Trainer Drei Wrote: If they are sub-par, edit or custom, then we need to tell them what they are doing wrong, which Shawn and 1up are doing excellently on. A matter of fact, we need more people critiquing like both of you, telling where the problems in the sprites are, instead of people just noting an obvious error that the creator should have already noticed.
What are you talking about? What did I do?