(08-17-2010, 03:41 PM)Track Eleven Wrote: I was going to explain why you're retarded with a huge text wall, but instead I'll just say this: Stop taking what I said out of context to make it look like you're winning when you know damn well what I was talking about.

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done w/ this thread, peace

(08-18-2010, 02:35 PM)Hoeloe Wrote: I'm not trying to defend the sprite. I'm perfectly willing to change it. The only reason I'm not improving the character's design is because I just wanted something to sprite, and picked a character of mine I created a while ago. I only wanted to sprite that character in an RPGish style, and not redesign the character as a whole. I have other characters and ideas that are far more original, but I just felt like spriting this.

so you wanted to sprite this? okay, but that doesn't mean you don't have to keep it the same as the original thing you have done. Hell even minor changes would not even hurt. How the hell did you ever believe that? this isn't really a good excuse. Figures for not trying to defend the sprite.

I'm asking for tips on how to make it not seem pillowshaded. All I have so far is: "It looks pillowshaded" and "It looks ugly". Okay, there's something wrong with it, but if I didn't notice it myself, how am I meant to know how to fix it if you just tell me it looks bad?

so really all you want to do is just figure out not to make it pillow shaded? You really could have just googled it up and this whole ordeal could have at least been avoided.

The light sources thing wasn't talking about one sprite. I was referring to a tileset, and the suggestion by 1up that the lightsources can be different for tiles and characters, and I was simply asking for clarification on this.

look at the majority of SNES or Genisis RPG games out there and use that as a refrence from that if you want to try and understand what we are saying, we don't really need to explain half of the shit in detail just to help you out. It's common sense.

I'm not trying to defend the sprite or ignore criticism. The only reason it seems that way is that without a positive aspect to criticism (ie. how I can fix it, rather than just what's wrong), I have no clue what the fuck I'm supposed to do.

Alright, this is something that this has been fucking bothering me for some time, so allow me to do 1up's job of doing a huge wall of text (Which I have seem to be doing all this time, dhame that I had to take his job) and at least explain in some detail.

Criticism is something we need to take and improve the things we do right? though the problem is, theres always going to be harsh critiscism no matter what.

So honest to god, explain to me on how the fuck there is a difference between being blunt honest about your work and positive criticism? seems like there all the same to me, there is absoulutly no such thing as a negative criticism unless someone straight out says it sucks the first time they see it.

Far as I see it, no one in this thread has done that at all. Don't even think about using gorsal's posts as an example, he told you that you could at least try to get rid of the pillow shading, you tried but it didn't work and he told you it still wasn't good.

EDIT: Another thing I should add

Quote:2. If you get comments saying something along the lines of "your sprite sucks", don't complain. Instead, look at your sprite and try to figure out why it sucks. If you still can't figure out why after some time has passed, CALMLY(that's the important part, don't want to get added to the list of threads up there, do you?) reply to the post requesting that the poster be more specific

See that? this is what I am explaining to you in some line of detail. you can easily get some clue of what you are doing if you self evaluate your own work. it's not hard at all as long as you know the terms and refrences you use, if that hasn't helped look up a tutorial on spriting, that isn't hard at all seeing the only thing you have to do is sit on your ass and look it up. No such thing as being lazy unless you don't do anything but sleep all day.

Another thing is that, if you can't take criticism the way it's given then you are absolutely fucked being an artist. This applies to anything, sprites, pixel art, a drawing, or even pissing on a wall. You have to take it as is, if you don't understand then look up the terms used, or at least find some sort of refrence for shading (or anything for that matter) on google like I said earlier, it won't hurt.

This seems to be what your problem is. you are not the first one to have this. But christ, seeing this everytime makes me cringe so fucking hard it makes me wish I could punch people through a monitor. Probably because it's just about annoying as pulling shit out of a rat's ass with your bear hands. the least you can do is take advice then argue with everyone.