(07-01-2017, 09:46 AM)AkumaTh Wrote:

(06-30-2017, 05:50 PM)SketchAnimations Wrote: Do I have to add that 3rd dark red from the Sonic 1 pallete that no one uses for some reason?

If you intend for this sheet to be the Ultimate Sonic 1 and not just a collection of recolors and frankinsteins, then yes and more.

(06-30-2017, 11:42 PM)SuperS192 Wrote: The Sonic 3 poses are from Sonic 3 Complete an unofficial compilation od Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic 3 complete, AKA S3&K and you can patch in the sonic 1 sprites.

Hackers do an amazing job, but even still they recommend you playing with the default settings. Such limitations were most likely made because there were no decent Sonic 1/2 version of those sprites. An example of such is the Super Sonic sprites they used. Instead of a recolor Sonic, they used these sprites so Super Sonic looks Super no matter the position.

Another example, compare the Prototypes of Sonic and Tails sprites to the reshading/fixing up of these Knuckles Chaotix Sonic and Tails. He did more than recolor the Prototype to have Knuckles Chaotix color scheme. He reshaded parts so they look more accurate looking.

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The first three rows are comparing 3 sprites from the Prototype with the Customs accepted. Note that he reshaded the sprites so they could look more accurate to Knuckles Chaotix.
The 4th Row has the Prototype and the Custom being compared to an in game sprite. Which looks better?
The 5th Row is a Sonic 1 Sprite, a Sonic 2 Sprite Recolored to look Sonic 1 and a Sonic 3 Sprite recolored to look Sonic 1. Notice how vastly different Sonic 3 is to Sonic 1.
The 6th Row is two sprites from this sheet. Outside color (because I copied and pasted it which messed with the colors), do they look similar to Sonic 1 style?
The final row is a Sonic Battle Pose that is on this sheet to the Sonic 3 Sonic Battle Pose that was not in Sonic 3 Complete. Notice a lot of shading similarities?

Making these poses into Sonic 1 style is a lot more work than copying a head and recoloring. You have to make sure they look accurate to the original source. And that means not only reshading but also reshaping the sprites to be close to the original. Here's an example of the reverse.



The Sonic 3 sprite is doing the exact same pose as the Sonic 1, but notice all the differences between the two. Its more than just a recolor with Sonic 3's head on top.

EDIT: An example to see side by side

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(06-30-2017, 11:42 PM)SuperS192 Wrote: The Sonic 3 poses are from Sonic 3 Complete an unofficial compilation od Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic 3 complete, AKA S3&K and you can patch in the sonic 1 sprites.

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(07-01-2017, 02:25 PM)LuigiXHero Wrote: These sheet seems shady, My source said he gave you permission to use his sprite but didn't know it was for this sprite sheet. Also there's cinnosu who I doubt given you permission to put that on the sheet. In fact I doubt you asked for permission to even share any of these sprites.

Also missing someone? Those extended Sonic 1 walking frames looks very familar...
oh right:


You straight up stole the extended Sonic 1 walking frames from Sonic Next Level by Markey Jester without even crediting him.

Also the extended running frames are from next level:


The thing about the frames from Next Level is that Markey Jester never released the sprites in a sheet so someone had to have stolen the sprites from Next Level. I'm guessing one of the credits on the sheet actually stole the sprites and said they were his/her's.

(06-30-2017, 11:42 PM)SuperS192 Wrote: The Sonic 3 poses are from Sonic 3 Complete an unofficial compilation od Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic 3 complete, AKA S3&K and you can patch in the sonic 1 sprites.

If this is correct, you didn't even credit anyone from Sonic 3 Complete.

So for those wanting to use the sheet I recommend not since there is some super shady things going on here.

I'd like to be proven wrong but there is just too much evidence pointing to this sheet having stolen art.

I should also mention that it's not ok to make a sprite sheet compilation without asking for permission CLEARLY first from everyone you want to include. They could say no for multiple reasons since even though it's "free to use" it's not "free to share".

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(07-02-2017, 07:57 AM)Dazz Wrote: I'd whittle this down to a case of somebody not knowing some of the terminology or an understanding of how people operate with sprite sheets. I don't think anybody here is looking at you as a thief, just that what you've done is considered a bit of a dick move. Not that you knew you were even making said dick move.

Just keep careful, and I'd suggest not working off of other people's work in the future without explicit permission prior. That includes any fan creations - romhacks, fan games, custom sheets, edited sheets, etc.

(07-04-2017, 07:08 PM)LydiaPurp105 Wrote: well, they *aren't* complaining. they're just enforcing the rules of this community, which is part of their duty as members of it. we don't mean any harm as long as your willing to cooperate.

i'm with Dazz in that ripping from fan games/rom hacks is one of those grey areas of sprite-ripping - it is probably best to either contact the original creators and ask permission to rip/use their sprites (which you appear to be doing now, so good). these sorts of community projects are more precious to the producers than say, a budget production of a video game to be sent out to the game industry for profit.

(07-09-2017, 07:33 AM)Hiro-sofT Wrote: Well, this is the Ultimate "Sonic 1" Sheet... because Super Sonic appeared frist in Sonic 2, it's no wonder that Super Sonic wouldn't be in there.

(07-10-2017, 03:29 PM)bennascar Wrote:

(07-09-2017, 07:33 AM)Hiro-sofT Wrote: Well, this is the Ultimate "Sonic 1" Sheet... because Super Sonic appeared frist in Sonic 2, it's no wonder that Super Sonic wouldn't be in there.

If there was a Ultimate Super Sonic sheet, it would be based on Sonic 2 because Sonic 1 doesn't have any super sonic that look unique to the game. But, the ultimate Sonic 1 sheet could possibly at least get super transformation sprites since it lacks those at the moment.