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RE: Bobby Kotick insults every indie game dev in the world (Except Bungie) - triptych - 09-21-2010
(09-21-2010, 05:06 PM)StarSock64 Wrote: How often do western developers make something of "wow" quality?multiple times every year
RE: Bobby Kotick insults every indie game dev in the world (Except Bungie) - Cobalt Blue - 09-21-2010
(09-21-2010, 06:24 PM)Track Eleven Wrote:wow quality? pfffffffffffffffffffffff(09-21-2010, 05:06 PM)StarSock64 Wrote: How often do western developers make something of "wow" quality?multiple times every year
RE: Bobby Kotick insults every indie game dev in the world (Except Bungie) - DioShiba - 09-23-2010
here's how the former president of bungie takes kotick's comments
someone gets the drill.
RE: Bobby Kotick insults every indie game dev in the world (Except Bungie) - Shadowth117 - 09-23-2010
Nice, I love the comeback there. At least someone big has said something about it.
RE: Bobby Kotick insults every indie game dev in the world (Except Bungie) - Skink - 09-25-2010
(09-23-2010, 03:36 PM)masterofdioga Wrote: here's how the former president of bungie takes kotick's comments
someone gets the drill.
Can't wait to play as Bobby Kotick.
RE: Bobby Kotick insults every indie game dev in the world (Except Bungie) - triptych - 09-25-2010
(09-21-2010, 06:52 PM)/■/ Wrote:oh no i dont like shooters clearly nothing of quality is ever made by a western developer ever im going to blindly claim otherwise and pass it off as fact(09-21-2010, 06:24 PM)Track Eleven Wrote:wow quality? pfffffffffffffffffffffff(09-21-2010, 05:06 PM)StarSock64 Wrote: How often do western developers make something of "wow" quality?multiple times every year
RE: Bobby Kotick insults every indie game dev in the world (Except Bungie) - Rosencrantz - 09-25-2010
(09-23-2010, 03:36 PM)masterofdioga Wrote: here's how the former president of bungie takes kotick's comments
someone gets the drill.
hahahahaha that owns
RE: Bobby Kotick insults every indie game dev in the world (Except Bungie) - Kriven - 09-25-2010
(09-25-2010, 11:53 AM)Track Eleven Wrote:(09-21-2010, 06:52 PM)/■/ Wrote:oh no i dont like shooters clearly nothing of quality is ever made by a western developer ever im going to blindly claim otherwise and pass it off as fact(09-21-2010, 06:24 PM)Track Eleven Wrote:wow quality? pfffffffffffffffffffffff(09-21-2010, 05:06 PM)StarSock64 Wrote: How often do western developers make something of "wow" quality?multiple times every year
There are some really good shooters, like Perfect Dark and TF2. But most of them are generic and overdone, don't bring anything new to the table, and really aren't even close to "wow."
RE: Bobby Kotick insults every indie game dev in the world (Except Bungie) - DioShiba - 09-25-2010
(09-25-2010, 10:53 AM)Skink Wrote:(09-23-2010, 03:36 PM)masterofdioga Wrote: here's how the former president of bungie takes kotick's comments
someone gets the drill.
Can't wait to play as Bobby Kotick.
It would be the best game of the decade if you ask me.
RE: Bobby Kotick insults every indie game dev in the world (Except Bungie) - triptych - 09-25-2010
(09-25-2010, 02:42 PM)Kriven Wrote:yeah but what does that have to do with what I said(09-25-2010, 11:53 AM)Track Eleven Wrote:(09-21-2010, 06:52 PM)/■/ Wrote:oh no i dont like shooters clearly nothing of quality is ever made by a western developer ever im going to blindly claim otherwise and pass it off as fact(09-21-2010, 06:24 PM)Track Eleven Wrote:wow quality? pfffffffffffffffffffffff(09-21-2010, 05:06 PM)StarSock64 Wrote: How often do western developers make something of "wow" quality?multiple times every year
There are some really good shooters, like Perfect Dark and TF2. But most of them are generic and overdone, don't bring anything new to the table, and really aren't even close to "wow."
the majority of shooters (and every other genre to ever exist ever, don't even try to argue against this) being shit has nothing to do with the fact that western developers still put out tons of objectively "wow quality" stuff every year
RE: Bobby Kotick insults every indie game dev in the world (Except Bungie) - StarSock64 - 09-25-2010
(09-25-2010, 11:53 AM)Track Eleven Wrote:(09-21-2010, 06:52 PM)/■/ Wrote:oh no i dont like shooters clearly nothing of quality is ever made by a western developer ever im going to blindly claim otherwise and pass it off as fact(09-21-2010, 06:24 PM)Track Eleven Wrote:wow quality? pfffffffffffffffffffffff(09-21-2010, 05:06 PM)StarSock64 Wrote: How often do western developers make something of "wow" quality?multiple times every year
I used to love shooters but then I just got sick of getting the same stuff all the time. But I probably missed out on getting a lot of the better stuff because of stupidity and everyone I played with got the most generic popular games and I got what they got. That's why I asked earlier if I was "missing something" but nobody ever gave me examples or anything. And the quoted phrase itself is a question. It just seems like western games are so stuck on a single image and a single genre that it's easy to forget the times when they're not. I really don't know many examples of when they're not. ~I'm a ignorant~
But either way I don't think Japanese developers should be wishing they could appeal directly to Western audiences because last time I checked, they aren't very good at it, and if they did then it would become very monotonous. If Japanese developers suck then they need to get up to par with their own games, not trying to copy what works here for easy profits. It sounds to me like the makers of established series are too afraid to try new things so they just milk out sequel #599 and now they want to milk out shooter #599 while they're at it.
RE: Bobby Kotick insults every indie game dev in the world (Except Bungie) - Rökkan - 09-26-2010
(09-25-2010, 03:51 PM)StarSock64 Wrote: But either way I don't think Japanese developers should be wishing they could appeal directly to Western audiences because last time I checked, they aren't very good at it, and if they did then it would become very monotonous.
um
they kinda have to
or did you forget tons and tons of game developers (kojima for instance) warning that the japanese game industry will cease to grow unless they start giving much more shit to the western audience than the eastern audience?
this is why namco is facing such a crisis, only 1/3 of their games actually release on america, and it's all very japanese shit that the usual western audience that loves hollywood-ish stuff doesn't care
this is why we have Dead Rising and Dead Rising 2. Not only it's a great game (dunno about the second one, probably is), but it appeals to the western audience perfectly. Mall infested with zombies and your main character looks like an action movie star? Ka-fucking-ching.
Anyway, amazing reply of Peter Tamte lmao I loved it
RE: Bobby Kotick insults every indie game dev in the world (Except Bungie) - Cobalt Blue - 09-27-2010
one of my favorite shooters of all time its Virtual On Oratorio Tangram.
a japanese Shooter.
And Time Crisis 2
another Japanese Shooter.
Virtual On is literally 9999 japanese, while Time Crisis series are literally hollywood-wannabe action films.