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RE: Oracle Placement In Zelda Timeline - Omegajak - 08-17-2008
No. Events that clearly take place either before or after the title in question obviously happened but seriously as I hear it TP takes place before WW. If THAT'S the placement, if there really was a concrete timeline there would be an explanation at the end of the game. Perhaps even a prelude to WW's events but no, nothing in WW has anything to do with TP, or vice versa except characters names a maybe a few places.
RE: Oracle Placement In Zelda Timeline - Koopaul - 08-17-2008
Uh, split timeline dummy. WW takes place after Adult Link defeats Ganon. TP takes place after Link returns to his child self and never defeated Ganon. Miyamoto said it himself.
RE: Oracle Placement In Zelda Timeline - Omegajak - 08-17-2008
(08-17-2008, 12:14 AM)koopaul Wrote: Uh, split timeline dummy. WW takes place after Adult Link defeats Ganon. TP takes place after Link returns to his child self and never defeated Ganon. Miyamoto said it himself.
I know about the time split I just didn't know where TP actually went.
Point: Still unfilled holes. Kokiri where are they? Is this a new Link? Did the Kokiri grow up? Did they die out? Lon Lon Ranch?
RE: Oracle Placement In Zelda Timeline - Koopaul - 08-17-2008
This is a decedent of the original Link. Aonuma/ Miyamoto said that this takes place 100 something years after OoT. Seeing how the Kokiri were a small band of children that relied on the Deku Tree, I wouldn't be surprised if they all died out.
Either way, some things do make sense. If you remember, as an Adult, Ganondorf killed all the Zoras (except Ruto, the King, and a shop dealer) which is why there are no Zoras in the Wind Waker but there are still Gorons because Link managed to rescue them.
But Twilight Princess did have Zoras because Ganon's reign of terror never occurred.
Just because things seem unclear to you doesn't mean there isn't a timeline.
RE: Oracle Placement In Zelda Timeline - Omegajak - 08-17-2008
Just because you can piece together small things doesn't make it a timeline either. So to settle I say there could be a timeline. Rather than there indefinitely being one, and there definitely not being one.
RE: Oracle Placement In Zelda Timeline - Flare - 08-17-2008
Actually I don't think there are plot holes I could see Nintendo having a big reason on how each connect with subtle hints in each game - where there is, well at-least I hope.
And I don't think Koopaul is piecing together bits to make a story line, many fan speculation seem to connect dots that do exist in Zelda games to make a story line. Nintendo themselves have stated some things like where Oot takes place and how many years after that WW starts so I would say that its not a question of is there or isn't there a story line but more is it as in-depth as fans make it?
RE: Oracle Placement In Zelda Timeline - Omegajak - 08-17-2008
(08-17-2008, 10:21 PM)Flare Wrote: Actually I don't think there are plot holes I could see Nintendo having a big reason on how each connect with subtle hints in each game - where there is, well at-least I hope.
And I don't think Koopaul is piecing together bits to make a story line, many fan speculation seem to connect dots that do exist in Zelda games to make a story line. Nintendo themselves have stated some things like where Oot takes place and how many years after that WW starts so I would say that its not a question of is there or isn't there a story line but more is it as in-depth as fans make it?
Without Depth it's more like a saga that has similarities but different...uh,,,characters with the same name. I couldn't think of a better way to say that...
RE: Oracle Placement In Zelda Timeline - Flare - 08-17-2008
I was meaning many fans study the story and look to find any link between games, I was just asking whether Nintendo actually has a step by step storyline and how each game connects or they just have a this game takes place 100 years before this one.
And I don't get what you mean by your ... uh characters with the same name thing.
RE: Oracle Placement In Zelda Timeline - Omegajak - 08-17-2008
(08-17-2008, 10:46 PM)Flare Wrote: I was meaning many fans study the story and look to find any link between games, I was just asking whether Nintendo actually has a step by step storyline and how each game connects or they just have a this game takes place 100 years before this one.
And I don't get what you mean by your ... uh characters with the same name thing.
They use to have an official timeline (or so I'm told) on their website where Lttp was first then OoT came and then that was put as first.
Now a days, I mostly just year this game takes ___ years after or before something else. Personally I think that's just an excuse as to not have to justify a solid 'we all see it' timeline, or create one for us to follow.
Well Link is named Link every single time so is Zelda and so is Ganon but most if any evert act like their previous versions.
RE: Oracle Placement In Zelda Timeline - Flare - 08-17-2008
1. You can change Link's name, some Links are the same and some are descendants and some are other people but there is no thing set in concrete that the characters you play as actually have a name since its up to you.
2. Zelda is named Zelda in every game because of the unnamed prince orders that every princess born takes the name Zelda after he caused the original to fall asleep.
3. Ganons the only character that is the same character throughout the series I believe.
RE: Oracle Placement In Zelda Timeline - Omegajak - 08-17-2008
(08-17-2008, 10:57 PM)Flare Wrote: 1. You can change Link's name, some Links are the same and some are descendants and some are other people but there is no thing set in concrete that the characters you play as actually have a name since its up to you.
2. Zelda is named Zelda in every game because of the unnamed prince orders that every princess born takes the name Zelda after he caused the original to fall asleep.
3. Ganons the only character that is the same character throughout the series I believe.
1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. What? If he's the same guy every time why does everyone act likes he's a new enemy every time? Wait...isn't the legend that there's a male Gerudo born every...100 years?
RE: Oracle Placement In Zelda Timeline - Flare - 08-17-2008
Do they act as if he is new every-time? And I am not sure about the whole male Gerudo but I don't see how that could mean Ganon is not the same person in each game.
RE: Oracle Placement In Zelda Timeline - Rubbers - 08-17-2008
(08-17-2008, 12:14 AM)koopaul Wrote: Miyamoto said it himself.
I personally find it adorable how you think you're winning an argument (by the way, an argument over the very pinnacle of trivial bullshit) by name dropping the guy who created the series without you know
providing evidence that he actually said it.
RE: Oracle Placement In Zelda Timeline - Flare - 08-18-2008
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/15194.html
RE: Oracle Placement In Zelda Timeline - Koopaul - 08-18-2008
It was confirmed in the Wind Waker (by the King of Red Lions) that the Link in the Wind Waker is not a decendent of any previous Links which is why he had to recollect the Triforce pieces and gained the title "Hero of Winds"
This is because the true Hero of Time left to his own time as a child thus leaving no traces of his existence in the future timeline. If you think about it, it will make sense. Atleast the 3D games do.
I also believe in the possibilty that the original timeline was recreated at some time. There is a timeline evident but its VERY faulty.