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RE: My sheets -- what more can be said? - Miles07 - 02-23-2009

It's been a while since I last updated these sheets...

Check out the first post.

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Zelda Items sheet
Metroid Items / Upgrades sheet

And yes, the Slingshot is now on the sheet.


RE: My sheets -- what more can be said? - Fierce_Muffin - 02-24-2009

I noticed on the Zelda sheet, the sprites for the original Legend of Zelda, there's two Bracelets. Wasn't there only one Bracelet and it was red? I'm not saying it shouldn't be there or that it's bad, I'm just saying.


RE: My sheets -- what more can be said? - Miles07 - 02-27-2009

You have a good eye. I'll fix that on the sheet. But still, either is usable, really.
Oh well. I'll fix that in the next update.


RE: My sheets -- what more can be said? - Previous - 02-27-2009

Haven't looked at this for a while...
Gotta say, wha, awesome stuff, bro.

Wind Waker Leaf freaks me out, though.


RE: My sheets -- what more can be said? - Kenjitake - 02-27-2009

the deku leaf does need improvement... also noticed some of the swords in TWW are a bit messed up, but overall, great! didja get the fairies I gave you yet?


RE: My sheets -- what more can be said? - Miles07 - 03-01-2009

*SPOILERS*

No, no fairies yet... Also, how are the TWW items "messed up"? The Master Sword is basically broken up like that in the game, and once you get through the Earth and Wind Temples it gets, well, fixed up. Also, I ended up using a Super Mario Bros. 3 Super Leaf for the base of the Deku Leaf sprite. Maybe there's a bit too much twig in it? I can scale that down a bit...


RE: My sheets -- what more can be said? - Previous - 03-01-2009

Problem is, the leaf doesn't look like one at all.
It looks pillow shaded, the lack of a dark outline makes it look like some sort of weird gem and those black lines don't really give the effect of twigs.


RE: My sheets -- what more can be said? - Kenjitake - 03-01-2009

what I meant was the lightest part of the sword has the blue background in it. it's very minor though... meh =P


RE: My sheets -- what more can be said? - Miles07 - 03-02-2009

@ Kenji: Eh-wut? Blue background? Oh, well that's the canvas. I'll see if I can fix that, but I'm not sure how it'll look. Will black filled into that space work?

@ Previous: Deku leaf... Man, okay, try this sheet.
#0 is the original Super Leaf,
1 is the sprite currently on the sheet,
2 is the straight recolor,
3 is some altered version,
and 4 is just a resized-and-repaired sprite using the "official art" of the Deku Leaf.

Which version should be used/closer to what SHOULD be used, and how can I improve this sprite?


RE: My sheets -- what more can be said? - Fierce_Muffin - 03-02-2009

Maybe making the veins of it not black, but rather dark green would make it look better. Making the stem the same color as the veins could also make it look better, because that's how it actually looks.

Unless that strays away from Minish Cap style?

The rightmost sprite is the most accurate from what I can tell, but it's also very small. Ehhhhhhh.


RE: My sheets -- what more can be said? - Previous - 03-02-2009

That aren't actual veins of the leaf. It's a branch stuck onto the leaf to stabilize it.

So then...
For one, the palette lacks of contrast towards the darkler tones whereas the lighter tones are way too bright - as i stated, it's a leaf, not a gemstone, it shouldn't reflect that much light.
As Fierce_Muffin said, the 'stem' should be the same as the branches.
Number two lacks the outstanding branches while they look like weird hairs on the third. Number for, somehow, doesn't give the look of a leaf at all and looks pretty crippled.

Anyways, that's what I came up with.
[Image: miles07dekuleaf.png]
I wasn't too happy with the first one and started a second attempt, aiming for a drastically simplified branch, as that seems to be the main problem. Probably you should do something like that...


RE: My sheets -- what more can be said? - Kenjitake - 03-02-2009

out of all of them... #4 is better. although previous' beats all of them. I'd recommend using his or something.


RE: My sheets -- what more can be said? - Miles07 - 03-03-2009

1. The palette I used is the official one, so I'll just shift the colors towards the darker end of the palette.
2. #4 if the worst of them IMO. But yeah, Previous's leaves look better, although they may be a tad bit too dark. Remember that TMC kinda exaggerates parts of the sprites (for instance, take a look at the TMC swords - compare the White Sword ((what a swords really SHOULD look like)) with the Four Sword). I personally prefer the first leaf, but I'll see if it needs more tweaking...
3. @ Fierce_Muffin: No no, you're right. It's in-style that way.


RE: My sheets -- what more can be said? - Superliger - 03-03-2009

Boy Miles your zelda sheet has come a long way since I've seen it. It's looking good.


RE: My sheets -- what more can be said? - Miles07 - 03-03-2009

Thanks, RM. Where do YOU feel I need to improve on in this sheet (focus more on, say, the Twilight Princess stuff, for instance)?

'Kay then, here's what I got with Previous's sheet.

#5 is another recolor of the original (but now darker one step)
#s 6 and 7 are Previous's sprites, just recolored for the official palette.
And all other numbers are the same as in the earlier posts.
And yes, they're still small. Sorry.