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RE: Sonic and... stuff... - Yoder - 07-03-2008
This topic was not made for bashing Sonic. It was meant for fans of Sonic who want to see him improve.
Further, if you think Sonic's plotline is the same every time, look at various other franchises: Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Halo, etc...
RE: Sonic and... stuff... - Flare - 07-04-2008
Yoder, K0n9 has a point, the main reason is that the games are not being tested or improved based on testing. STH06 no matter how you try to sugar coat it, it is properly the worst game I own. You play it and you think, how can a company that has had success and is a big successful company managing to produce this stuff and whats worse is that we then have people backing them up and saying its not bad. They need to pull the finger out seeing as the only time they get Sonic right recently is when another company develops the game.
Personally story wise I think they need to fix it, I would have the story from the end of SA2 be some alternative universe, like a what if Shadow never died... and then go back and fix things such as Shadow being dead, Blaze and Silver not being here, and Nega Eggman who is the worse character in the Sonic universe.
RE: Sonic and... stuff... - Chdonga - 07-04-2008
I doubt anyone has ever noticed this, the original voice actor for Sonic was Jaleel White but that was only in the cartoon and the first movie. I think Sonic would be at least somewhat funny if they made one more Sonic game where Jaleel White does Sonic's voice and Sonic looks old-school style.
RE: Sonic and... stuff... - Yoder - 07-04-2008
I've never plyaed Next-Gen, though I would like to get the chance so I can form my own opinion.
Agreed: A pyrokinetic cat (and even a fishing cat), a telekinetic hedgehog (and even a gun-shooting hedgehog), and eggman's AU counterpart were bad ideas. They should've kept creatures as they are. Sonic, Shadow, and Silver (who killed my theory about fur colors inverting when hedgehogs went super) shouldn't have been much different, like in SA2. The variety is okay, but they need to make up their minds. Either include only small modifications to movesets or overhaul everything about each character. Doing it halfway it akward, especially when you see Shadow doing a homing dash while carrying a massive bazooka.
An interesting tidbit, chdonga.
RE: Sonic and... stuff... - Flare - 07-05-2008
Chdonga Wrote:I doubt anyone has ever noticed this, the original voice actor for Sonic was Jaleel White but that was only in the cartoon and the first movie. I think Sonic would be at least somewhat funny if they made one more Sonic game where Jaleel White does Sonic's voice and Sonic looks old-school style.
What has this got to do with anything, and a lot of people know this, Sonic no doubt had several voices in advertisment before AoSTH. He wasn't voiced by Jaleel in the movie.
RE: Sonic and... stuff... - balladofwindfishes - 07-05-2008
all 3 Sonic the Hedgehog games made with the Sonic Rush Engine/Graphics and not being awful like the GBA "Remake."
But honestly, Sonic Rush was a good idea whoever in Sega who wanted to make a Sonic 2D Side Scroller is a smart person who needs a prize or something.
Honestly no one ever wants anything good for the Sonic Series because everything people have wanted have always kind of ruined the Hedgehog or would take away something from him.
IE you can't have "MORE STORIES LULZ" and "MORE CLASSIC APPEAL LULZ" because those contradict each other.
Oh and people who say "STOPPED ADDING NEW CHARRTATCTERS EVERY SINGLLE NEXT GEN GAME!!11!"
Every single non-spinoff sonic game sinc Sonic thh2 has added a new character, people are just blind to see that this has always been a thing of Sonic that if it wasn't there would probably make the game almost feel empty.
RE: Sonic and... stuff... - Yoder - 07-05-2008
I wouldn't mind if they had more character, but they need to keep the powers and cool factor down. Also, reintroducing old characters would work well.
RE: Sonic and... stuff... - kyrtuck - 07-05-2008
I think they could go for a few games without introducing new characters. I personally don't care much for a lot of the stories and characters like Blaze, Silver, Elsie, Memphis, Black Doom, ect. (although if actually played the games instead of reading them, my mind would change, too bad I'm poor.)
I kinda miss the chao gardens, but I don't know what else they could do with them, they seemed to cover everything in SA2 battle.
Also, the guy at Videogamecritic seems to hate Sonic's voice acting. I didn't see what was wrong with it. It soundsroughly the same as it was in the cartoons (I think). What do you people think?
RE: Sonic and... stuff... - Lotos - 07-05-2008
Yawackhary Wrote:Dr. Robotnik being the boss again - not only that but being the final boss. The boss taking over Robotnik was fine in SA because it was unique but now it is the same over and over again.
Cut the cast - way down. Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Robotnik is all - maybe Amy for a quick ending scene or something. The main problem with most games are the useless characters being in every game (Cream, Marine and even Shadow) and turning it to the Sonic that I don't know/want to know.
A game that respects the classic fans which are now dying like fly sprays (aka classic Sonic design [black eye and all], special stages, Chaos Emeralds not being used as plot device unless it is absolutely needed and minimist story which doesn't need cutscenes) but that is pipe dream.
In my own opinion, SA2 was great with Eggman not being the final boss as well, as you got to play as him.
I agree with the second one, but instead of back to the original five, cut everyone after Cream, only because if there's a Chao Garden, Cream is a character that definitely needs to be playable in that garden (because of Cheese).
I'd also like to see a game with just Sonic going against Eggman again, but this time, actually calling him by the original name, Robotnik. Sonic Adventure 3 is something that must be done, an ACTUAL attempt, unlike Sonic 2006 or what people fear Unleashed to be. Online racing and treasure hunting, along with Chao mini-games would be a must (and I hope the Wii version is not fucked up with controls like Secret Rings was-not that I played it, I mean I'd like to see ONLY GCN and Classic Controller support for the main games, and the Wiimote only possibly come in for the Chao Garden with the Nunchuk. The Wiimote used for petting, throwing, etc.
RE: Sonic and... stuff... - Sho_"Rocker"_Daisuke - 07-05-2008
I never liked the classic design of Sonic, mainly because he looked too fat to be the fastest thing alive, I'm thinking thank god he cut down on the chili dogs when SEGA changed the design in SA
I think it might be interesting for SEGA to remake the classic Sonic the Hedgehog games, but with the newer graphics from Rush. What I mean is, keep the designs as they are now, but bring back the storyline for the remake
I think for the characters, I don't think they should cut them down to Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Eggman, but those four should be the main, they should put certain characters into certain games, like Blaze and Silver for games that involves stuff like going into the future or going into an alternate relm. I think they should also start making a series for Knuckles, like Chaotix, where it's basically Knuckles, Espio, Vector, Charmy, and maybe even Mighty, Ray, probably Bean, and having Bomb and Heavy as unlockable bonus characters.
I can't stress it enough to say that they should remake the chao garden system, even as a wii ware game, it's what gave SA2, SA, and all the other games that included it replay value
now going onto the voice acting, I think they should bring back the cast rom SA2, yeah, some of the VAs are okay now, but I'd rather hear Sonics voice with Ryan Drummond, rather than Jason... or is it vice versa? idk, I'm not good with actors. going back to the voice actor subject, they need to stop Tails from sounding like an idiot, I mean the kid's a freakin GENIUS, and he's EIGHT
now I'm just kind of getting into knit picking, but some of those things I suggested should be followed
RE: Sonic and... stuff... - Yoder - 07-05-2008
For one, a new chao garden could change a "hero,running,running" chao to look like Silver. Sonic is the normal variant and Shadow is the dark variant, so it makes sense (especially since Silver has a stronger sense of justuice than Sonic).
If a retail game was released for Wii that didn't use the wiimote, people would complain and sales would be hurt.
Robotnik's original name is Eggman (in Japan, where it counts).
Tails' voice after SA2 was ear-bleedingly awful.
Yes, remakes of the genesis games would be great. If it was a retail Wii (or another system, I'm just saying what would be most likely) title, they could probably link all 4 games into one package. That'd certainly make it interesting. *imagines playing as Knuckles with the spindash enabled in Sonic 1*
RE: Sonic and... stuff... - balladofwindfishes - 07-06-2008
I was going to make a poorly tasting joke about getting Eggman's old voice actor from SA2 but I stopped myself.
Anyway, the Chao garden was something pretty much every reviewer saw as pretty awesome, why would they go and cut it from every new sequel...
RE: Sonic and... stuff... - GrooveMan.exe - 07-06-2008
balladofwindfishes Wrote:I was going to make a poorly tasting joke about getting Eggman's old voice actor from SA2 but I stopped myself.
YOSH!
Also screw you all those who want Blaze removed. Best new character.
RE: Sonic and... stuff... - Sho_"Rocker"_Daisuke - 07-06-2008
GrooveMan.exe Wrote:balladofwindfishes Wrote:I was going to make a poorly tasting joke about getting Eggman's old voice actor from SA2 but I stopped myself.
YOSH!
Also screw you all those who want Blaze removed. Best new character.
YEAH! same with Silver!
shut it with the jokes -.-
RE: Sonic and... stuff... - Flare - 07-06-2008
Blaze may be the best new character, but what is her point of the series, its simular to Sonics. Thats my problem is that these character have no point, Silver has a unique gameplay style which I like but what is his character?