(07-26-2012, 02:22 AM)Rosencrantz Wrote: Also, we at the United States kind of suck when it comes to stress levels. We're on the edge on a consistent basis because we're always rushing to do things, always have deadlines, always need to be somewhere, doing something, anything... it's a legitimate mess and it's no wonder why people can just snap under all the pressure.

James Holmes here snapped because he was bombing out of his Ph.D. To put this in perspective, he bought one of his rifles after failing an important oral exam.

Now, that's not really all that big of a deal to some of you guys, but our college system in America kind of sucks. We pay a lot of money to attend these higher-end universities, and failing a class means anything ranging from a loss of scholarship to the postponement of graduation. Usually, if your GPA is awesome, you don't need to worry about a scholarship loss. However, postponing graduation is horrible; this means that you have to pay a ton of tuition money to make up the class, and I don't believe scholarships will cover make-up semesters so you're stuck paying for the retake at an additional cost out of your pocket. This was probably the case with James.

Guns and gun control aren't the problem here; the problem is because we're crammed into a really painfully stressful country, where we have the desire to succeed and to succeed at an inhumanly accelerated pace. This kind of pressure isn't easy to bear, and people unfortunately snap. And, when they snap, they snap with weapons. It's stupid to try and ban guns when we could very well try to make people happier and less stressed out here.

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come to think of it, with that logic, remember learning about the east indian "caste" system, where they'd describe the "untouchables" as the worst possible social class with no possible hope/escape from their position in the caste? it makes me wonder if the untouchables had a extremely high suicide rate like "oh shit, i'm an untouchable, time to come back as a king"

(07-28-2012, 02:57 PM)Kosheh Wrote: well little rosie, playing devils' advocate, unbearable stress is not really that "american" of a thing. there is far more pressure to getting into a good school and a good education in Japan, to the point where they have summer "cram schools" where they cover so much in so little time so you can pass the standardized testing necessary to get into your college of choice. most people there don't shoot up others to release the stress and tension -- it's much more likely that they'll kill themselves to escape a life of despair, dissapointment, and a minimum wage mcdonald's job now that they've shamed their family.

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come to think of it, with that logic, remember learning about the east indian "caste" system, where they'd describe the "untouchables" as the worst possible social class with no possible hope/escape from their position in the caste? it makes me wonder if the untouchables had a extremely high suicide rate like "oh shit, i'm an untouchable, time to come back as a king"

what it boils down to mostly -- and I hate to admit this as an American -- that violence is just a part of our shitty American culture. if you've had that bully beating you up, most parents here in the states to react by also being violent towards the aggressor. we're just a country so used to beating the shit out of each other; whereas a place like England, Japan, or even Brazil has a different set of values that while we have those same "American" problems they're most likely not going to react in those "American" ways.