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RE: New Smash Bros In The Works? - Cobalt Blue - 07-09-2009

I was wondering, is it posible to replace Mr Game&Watch for lets any, anything else? as in using a resized sprite in his place.

RE: New Smash Bros In The Works? - Shadowth117 - 07-09-2009

Possibly. I can't remember though because I think he might just be a flat two sided model. I'll check.

Edit: Yep he's not a sprite.

RE: New Smash Bros In The Works? - Vipershark - 07-09-2009

back to sonic chars for a second, I think knuckles can make the cut
he's a fighter, after all

and shadow can be a skin for sonic like the wario alternate costumes

RE: New Smash Bros In The Works? - Koopaul - 07-09-2009

We should just have one third party character per franchise... to be fair.

One for Metal Gear, one for Sonic, one for something else, etc.

RE: New Smash Bros In The Works? - Shadowth117 - 07-09-2009

(07-09-2009, 03:57 PM)koopaul Wrote: We should just have one third party character per franchise... to be fair.

One for Metal Gear, one for Sonic, one for something else, etc.

Why? Each character color can be a different character model. Its not like you wouldn't be able to pick and choose what models you actually want to use anyway. The way it works is if you have a model to replace the one in the game on your SD card then the game will use the model on the SD card. If you don't want to replace a model then you just don't put a file there. Its that simple.

Edit: Oh yeah and here's the Mii's body:
[Image: miibody.jpg]

It'd be also helpful if someone would post a picture of a head and face to use.

RE: New Smash Bros In The Works? - Star - 07-09-2009

I was going to agree with Koopaul(simply because I didn't want you guys to wear yall's selves out) but I forgot the SD cards work that way.

I hate to bother you with questions but I got one that's been bothering me and I feel the need to ask. Let's say you hack Megaman's model with Samus's. Would the model be able to react proper with the "wire frame"(I guess that's what it's called, I'm not too smart on stuff like this)of Samus? Because I've seen models do wacky stuff with hacks like make Pikachu have Ganondorf's movset, like thier arms get stretchy and different sections twitch.

Another one has to do with movesets..I heard it's possible to create your own custom moveset. Is this true?

If you don't feel like answering them, it's all fine. Also, my support goes to you and all the others trying to pull of this model hacking stuff.

RE: New Smash Bros In The Works? - Shadowth117 - 07-09-2009

(07-09-2009, 04:53 PM)Star/Starpower Wrote: I was going to agree with Koopaul(simply because I didn't want you guys to wear yall's selves out) but I forgot the SD cards work that way.

I hate to bother you with questions but I got one that's been bothering me and I feel the need to ask. Let's say you hack Megaman's model with Samus's. Would the model be able to react proper with the "wire frame"(I guess that's what it's called, I'm not too smart on stuff like this)of Samus? Because I've seen models do wacky stuff with hacks like make Pikachu have Ganondorf's movset, like thier arms get stretchy and different sections twitch.

Another one has to do with movesets..I heard it's possible to create your own custom moveset. Is this true?

If you don't feel like answering them, it's all fine. Also, my support goes to you and all the others trying to pull of this model hacking stuff.

No problem, I'm fine with answering questions.

The reason the Pikachu model went crazy was because he file swapped Pikachu's model onto Ganondorf. Their bone structures are different, but the game still stretched Pikachu's model as if it were Ganondorf's resulting in Pikachu's bones moving into the same locations Ganondorf's were supposed to go.

In a nutshell because Ganondorf is bigger, Pikachu body was stretched to use Ganondorf's animations.

This shouldn't be a problem though as long as you're using the right models with the right people.

Custom movesets are possible to an extent although this has to be done with codes and I don't know how to do it.

RE: New Smash Bros In The Works? - Star - 07-09-2009

Alright, it all makes sense now. Thank you! Big Grin

As for the Mii, maybe use Mario's body structure for it. It seems like the right choice.
And the model looks great! And I wish I could help you with finding a head for him but I can't. I'm not good with models. But if I can find a model mii head already made, I'll be sure to pose it. Perhaps use Shigeru's head?

http://media.photobucket.com/image/shigeru%20miyamoto%20mii/wannabepunktony/DSC02952.jpg

RE: New Smash Bros In The Works? - LilGrim1991 - 07-09-2009

If they're gonna make a new smash bros, they better not do another dojo, all that information ruined the excitement from the other 2. Seriously, if they do it again, I'm not gonna watch it.

RE: New Smash Bros In The Works? - Shadowth117 - 07-09-2009

Yeah Dojo kind of spoiled everything. There should have been at least a few surprises like Sonic left for the gamer to find themselves upon the games release. The only things that weren't really spoiled were the trophies and stickers honestly.

Also, ladies and gentlemen I present Miiyamoto!
[Image: miiyamoto.jpg]

Retarded name, but what else can I call it?

RE: New Smash Bros In The Works? - DioShiba - 07-09-2009

(07-09-2009, 03:01 PM)Vipershark Wrote: back to sonic chars for a second, I think knuckles can make the cut
he's a fighter, after all

Knuckles isn't that deserving compared to Tails
Sure he is a fighter, but he isn't really all that he once was since SA2 plus he's not that that close to sonic as he is with tails, who has been with sonic for a long time as a extremely close friend. He should make the cut over knuckles, but I stay close to my part of the argument and keep tails a assist rather then playable for now.
As for shadow, he shouldn't be in at all. The only reason why all the fucking weeaboo sires who want him in is because they think shadow is the most bad ass character in the sonic series, and quite possible because he was in Super Smash Flash (Which was that shitty fan game). Shadow isn't deserving to be in at all since he got his own game.
(07-09-2009, 07:58 PM)Shadowth117 Wrote: Yeah Dojo kind of spoiled everything. There should have been at least a few surprises like Sonic left for the gamer to find themselves upon the games release. The only things that weren't really spoiled were the trophies and stickers honestly.

Also, ladies and gentlemen I present Miiyamoto!
[Image: miiyamoto.jpg]

Retarded name, but what else can I call it?

To be honest I would have went with the default Mii head

though if you are going to keep this one as is then maybe just call this mii by his actual name

RE: New Smash Bros In The Works? - Shadowth117 - 07-09-2009

Okay seriously guys who said there had to be a limit to the characters that get hacked in. Its not like you'd have to use every character that's hacked in though I think I mentioned this already.

As for the Mii, well my Wii is nowhere near my computer so I couldn't just check. I needed a reference and Starpower gave me one.

Oh and are there any characters from Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix or Kingdom Hearts 1 that anyone would like to request?

RE: New Smash Bros In The Works? - Star - 07-09-2009

Perhaps Sora in his Final Form?
http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/10/6787.170px_2D00_SoraFinalForm.jpg
Just in case you don't know what it is ^
Most people don't know about it.

And of course, Sephiroth because he's one of the best villians ever. Big Grin

RE: New Smash Bros In The Works? - K0n9 - 07-09-2009

Cecil should be the FF character simply because he is badass.
At least he doesn't whine about his mom, have 7 ft sword or is emo.

I think Megaman should be in. He started on Nintendo, he should in SSB4.

I agree, one third party character per third party franchise.

RE: New Smash Bros In The Works? - Shadowth117 - 07-09-2009

[Image: sephyf.jpg]

Yes Sephiroth definitely needs to be done. He looks a bit blocky, but that's only because I have to fix a few things before I smooth him.

I think I should be able to get just about anything aside from most of the stuff in Tron's world because the model viewer crashes every time I try and view it.

Edit:
(07-09-2009, 09:33 PM)K0n9 Wrote: Cecil should be the FF character simply because he is badass.
At least he doesn't whine about his mom, have 7 ft sword or is emo.

I think Megaman should be in. He started on Nintendo, he should in SSB4.

I agree, one third party character per third party franchise.

Cecil may get in, but I won't be able to rip a very nice model of him since he only appeared in 3d on the DS.

There's nothing wrong with FF7 characters either. Play the game before you judge it. It hasn't aged well, but its still a classic as much as any other.

Megaman will probably get in since about a billion people have requested him.

Tough. You're the one that picks who you get anyway. No one's forcing you to use a character you don't like.