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Running and Walking cycles: are they smooth? - Bearded_Beast - 02-05-2011

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I want to make his run cycle smoother. How do I do this?

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his sheet (condensed for now)

Older cycles
[Image: zo6eeb.gif] [Image: 14j82oo.gif]

New sprite for the run. Made some changes.
[Image: 9znmlj.gif]

-update-
[Image: 2nm4qp.gif] [Image: Trancerunningcycles.gif] heh


RE: A beefy goblin: again with the run cycle - Cobalt Blue - 02-05-2011

animate it. its the only way we can see of its smooth or not.


RE: A beefy goblin: again with the run cycle - LeleleleMAXIMUM - 02-06-2011

[Image: rungob.gif]
on the legs, i think something is lost, because from 4th to 5th frame, his right leg moves from the front position to the back position.
on the arms, the 5th frame is moving forward, but the 6th frame is a backwards position

and the bandana should have secondary animation


RE: A beefy goblin: again with the run cycle - Bearded_Beast - 02-06-2011

(02-06-2011, 12:09 AM)Murderbeard Wrote: [Image: rungob.gif]
on the legs, i think something is lost, because from 4th to 5th frame, his right leg moves from the front position to the back position.
on the arms, the 5th frame is moving forward, but the 6th frame is a backwards position

and the bandana should have secondary animation

Alright, guess I'll have to reorder the sequence. Do you have any suggestions on what could help me (ex. tutorials, programs, etc.) to fix the issue?
Also, which program did you use to animate it? I can't find one that doesn't put a watermark across the middle of the image.


RE: A beefy goblin: again with the run cycle - Bearded_Beast - 02-09-2011

This seems to have smoother motion.
[Image: 9znmlj.gif]

I changed his porportions to better match my character sketch, and I haven't shaded the body yet. Not sure I should continue with this version or try again.


RE: A beefy goblin: again with the run cycle - LeleleleMAXIMUM - 02-09-2011

I used Graphics Gale, btw.

Did you shade the legs? It's very important, because it helps separate the L from the R.
The arms technically move correctly, but I think you can add more life to them, they look so stiff.
Be careful not to make everything move at the same rate, ie animating in-betweens EXACTLY between the endpoints. I suggest you study some running sprites in games for this.

I like that you've added movement to the bag to show the body's rotation. You could do the same with the head.

Run cycles are tough stuff, so just keep it up! We'll try to help as much as we can.


RE: A beefy goblin: again with the run cycle - Bearded_Beast - 02-09-2011

I haven't shaded the legs yet, I didn't want to put alot of work into it untill I felt the motion was right. I've studied alot of run cycles, everything from the simple Mega Man/Simon belmont from NES to as complicated as all the Metal Slug and Castlevania sprites of today (SOTN still my fave)

Thank you for the advice, and I'll look up that program. And I have to thank Smithy too, he pointed me to a very good reference book, and I'm a bit of a fan of his work too.




RE: A beefy goblin: again with the run cycle - LeleleleMAXIMUM - 02-09-2011

Castlevania walk cycles always seem so floaty, though. It's like, hi i'm leisurely strolling through dracula's castle. Whot.

Also, Smithy's generally awesome like that.


RE: A beefy goblin: again with the run cycle - Bearded_Beast - 02-11-2011

(02-09-2011, 10:19 AM)Murderbeard Wrote: Castlevania walk cycles always seem so floaty, though. It's like, hi i'm leisurely strolling through dracula's castle. Whot.

Also, Smithy's generally awesome like that.

Heh heh, that bit about Castlevania walks. Now it makes me think of Monty Python's: Ministry of Silly Walks. Picture Alucard or Richter doing some of that.

And as for Smithy? I saw his 8-bit Hindel and Wagner, I nearly choked on my coffee. Phenominal.

Otherwise, here are some of my other run cycles: I'm not sure whether I'm losing skill or forgetting it.

[Image: zo6eeb.gif] [Image: 14j82oo.gif]



RE: A beefy goblin: again with the run cycle - tsr moderation staff - 02-11-2011

http://www.manningkrull.com/pixel_art/tutorials/walking.asp

this is a fairly great tutorial on walk cycles, mostly because it doesn't give you a rigid structure but a loose guideline. it still helps a lot.


RE: A beefy goblin: again with the run cycle - Bearded_Beast - 02-11-2011

(02-11-2011, 01:04 PM)[fish in space] Wrote: http://www.manningkrull.com/pixel_art/tutorials/walking.asp

this is a fairly great tutorial on walk cycles, mostly because it doesn't give you a rigid structure but a loose guideline. it still helps a lot.

I've actually used this tutorial before. It uses a comination of "Strait ahead" and "Pose to pose" animation. The problem I find, is it doesn't really cover running. I also looked at:
http://s14.invisionfree.com/Pixel/index.php?showtopic=169

which tends toward Pose-to-pose, so things end up looking ridgid. I've tried applying both. I think I just need to continue to observe and practice at other run cycles.


RE: A beefy goblin: again with the run cycle - Codestar - 02-11-2011

here's a good bit of info I've found

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RE: A beefy goblin: again with the run cycle - Bearded_Beast - 02-11-2011

(02-11-2011, 01:12 PM)Kaikimi Wrote: here's a good bit of info I've found

RAWK! Thanks Kai!