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Star Fox Assault models - RX149Dragonite - 01-25-2013

Okay, so, first post here ever, and I'm already asking for help lol

So here's the story. I'm trying to rip the models from Star Fox Assault, with no prior experience in model ripping. I just wanna see those sleek ships in Gmod, so I need to extract the models. However, it seems I've run into many dead ends in trying to figure out how to rip models from Gamecube games. I've tried using Dolphin and 3D Ripper X, but that didn't work out. I've extracted the file system of the game, found what I assume are the model files, but they're in a format I have no idea about (.c3d, .chd, and .cbd). I've also read that the file types depend if the game is first party or third party made. Star Fox Assault was made by Namco, so it doesn't use Nintendo's file types, which programs have already been made for, so that's another roadblock.

So basically, I need help from someone experienced in model ripping to help me. My gratitude to whoever may help me.

RE: Star Fox Assault models - Friedslick6 - 01-26-2013

Welcome to the forum. That sounds great and all, but please read the forums rules before making requests.
Actually, I guess it isn't quite a request huh? In that case, let me search around a little...
EDIT: Found some scraps of information around...
http://www.emutalk.net/threads/35636-Starfox-Assault-model-viewer
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12567597&postcount=4638
http://www.starfox-online.net/topic/307-kinda-hidden-easter-egg-picture-in-adventures/?p=13488
...But nothing particularly useful. Perhaps you should make an enquiry on XeNTaX's model format research sub-forum?

RE: Star Fox Assault models - RX149Dragonite - 01-26-2013

(01-26-2013, 12:16 AM)Friedslick6 Wrote: Welcome to the forum. That sounds great and all, but please read the forums rules before making requests.
Actually, I guess it isn't quite a request huh?

Yeah, just a general call for model ripping help.

RE: Star Fox Assault models - Orwell - 01-26-2013

have u tried with other 3d rippers like 3dvia prinscreen or gl extractor(opengl rippers) and dx ripper or ninja ripper(directx ripper..not 3d ripper dx)?
Hve u tried to ripp from diffent version of dolphin, not only the last one?

PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q9dRTLkvrU this guy says that he managed to ripp char models from this game at the start of the video,
not only from brawl so it's should be possible to ripp even the ships. So try again and again and post eventually your results. Good luck

RE: Star Fox Assault models - RX149Dragonite - 01-26-2013

(01-26-2013, 01:25 PM)Orwell Wrote: have u tried with other 3d rippers like 3dvia prinscreen or gl extractor(opengl rippers) and dx ripper or ninja ripper(directx ripper..not 3d ripper dx)?
Hve u tried to ripp from diffent version of dolphin, not only the last one?

PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q9dRTLkvrU this guy says that he managed to ripp char models from this game at the start of the video,
not only from brawl so it's should be possible to ripp even the ships. So try again and again and post eventually your results. Good luck

I've tried those and they're just as messy. Also, the guy in that video ripped those trophy models from Brawl, which is completely different than what I'm trying to do.

RE: Star Fox Assault models - Friedslick6 - 01-26-2013

Sometimes if you're lucky enough, other games developed by the same company may use the same model format and also have model conversion tools. Even luckier still would be if one of these games had leftover model conversion tools lol. But yeah, I suggest either XeNTaX or a combination of an animation nullifying code and a 3D model capture program.

RE: Star Fox Assault models - RX149Dragonite - 01-27-2013

(01-26-2013, 12:16 AM)Friedslick6 Wrote: EDIT: Found some scraps of information around...
http://www.emutalk.net/threads/35636-Starfox-Assault-model-viewer
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12567597&postcount=4638
http://www.starfox-online.net/topic/307-kinda-hidden-easter-egg-picture-in-adventures/?p=13488
...But nothing particularly useful. Perhaps you should make an enquiry on XeNTaX's model format research sub-forum?

Seen them, but I may check out XeNTaX, whatever that means.

EDIT: XeNTaX had nothing, and I've tried other rippers and they didn't work.

RE: Star Fox Assault models - Friedslick6 - 01-27-2013

Well if there's no related topics, then I again suggest you make a topic enquiring about the game and see if somebody takes interest. What part about the model format seems easy to crack? Open the files in hex editors such as HxD and find out as much information as possible. Although uploading game content is no longer allowed on the forum, you can still share any text, size or header data you find. For example, the topic I made on Crash Bandicoot NSF/NSD archives:
http://forum.xentax.com/viewtopic.php?p=47715#p47715
Regarding rippers, perhaps you may need to upgrade your graphics driver if all of them don't work. When you say "don't work", could you specify what exactly doesn't happen? There is a user who requested Krystal from this game to be ported into XNALara's model format, and they supplied a model capture supposedly utilising Dolphin, so I'm sure it's possible to do so.

RE: Star Fox Assault models - Orwell - 01-27-2013

(01-26-2013, 03:28 PM)RX149Dragonite Wrote:
(01-26-2013, 01:25 PM)Orwell Wrote: have u tried with other 3d rippers like 3dvia prinscreen or gl extractor(opengl rippers) and dx ripper or ninja ripper(directx ripper..not 3d ripper dx)?
Hve u tried to ripp from diffent version of dolphin, not only the last one?

PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q9dRTLkvrU this guy says that he managed to ripp char models from this game at the start of the video,
not only from brawl so it's should be possible to ripp even the ships. So try again and again and post eventually your results. Good luck

I've tried those and they're just as messy. Also, the guy in that video ripped those trophy models from Brawl, which is completely different than what I'm trying to do.

mmm..

[Image: 40594181.jpg]

he says he ripped those models from starfox and brawl. If he was able to do this, it's means that is possible to ripp from that game.
Try to follow the advise of Friedslick6 .

RE: Star Fox Assault models - RX149Dragonite - 01-27-2013

(01-27-2013, 03:47 AM)Friedslick6 Wrote: Well if there's no related topics, then I again suggest you make a topic enquiring about the game and see if somebody takes interest. What part about the model format seems easy to crack? Open the files in hex editors such as HxD and find out as much information as possible. Although uploading game content is no longer allowed on the forum, you can still share any text, size or header data you find. For example, the topic I made on Crash Bandicoot NSF/NSD archives:
http://forum.xentax.com/viewtopic.php?p=47715#p47715
Regarding rippers, perhaps you may need to upgrade your graphics driver if all of them don't work. When you say "don't work", could you specify what exactly doesn't happen? There is a user who requested Krystal from this game to be ported into XNALara's model format, and they supplied a model capture supposedly utilising Dolphin, so I'm sure it's possible to do so.

My graphics drivers are all up to date, and when I push the hotkeys for the rippers to capture the models, nothing shows up in the target folders when I am done ripping. Also, I can't register in the forum without making a "donation" (more like paying to get in), so I can't ask any questions.

(01-27-2013, 09:57 AM)Orwell Wrote:
(01-26-2013, 03:28 PM)RX149Dragonite Wrote:
(01-26-2013, 01:25 PM)Orwell Wrote: have u tried with other 3d rippers like 3dvia prinscreen or gl extractor(opengl rippers) and dx ripper or ninja ripper(directx ripper..not 3d ripper dx)?
Hve u tried to ripp from diffent version of dolphin, not only the last one?

PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q9dRTLkvrU this guy says that he managed to ripp char models from this game at the start of the video,
not only from brawl so it's should be possible to ripp even the ships. So try again and again and post eventually your results. Good luck

I've tried those and they're just as messy. Also, the guy in that video ripped those trophy models from Brawl, which is completely different than what I'm trying to do.

mmm..

[Image: 40594181.jpg]

he says he ripped those models from starfox and brawl. If he was able to do this, it's means that is possible to ripp from that game.
Try to follow the advise of Friedslick6 .

Again, that video is about the 3D models of trophies (which shows the characters in their Star Fox Assault attire) from Brawl, not Star Fox Assault's 3D models. Hell, the download link the person supplied, even though it's dead, says "NanogrrrsBrawlAssaultStarFoxModels.zip".

RE: Star Fox Assault models - Orwell - 01-28-2013

Ok man, i will tell u the last one. If a person said that the models comes from fstar fox assault AND BRAWL , what do u understand? he didn't said nothing about trophies and even this ,I think a common people can understand models ripped from star fox assault and Brawl (chara + trophies?) . If then he decided to post only brawl models ..it's a his choice. Btw i may misunderstood his words.

RE: Star Fox Assault models - RX149Dragonite - 01-28-2013

(01-28-2013, 10:34 AM)Orwell Wrote: Ok man, i will tell u the last one. If a person said that the models comes from fstar fox assault AND BRAWL , what do u understand? he didn't said nothing about trophies and even this ,I think a common people can understand models ripped from star fox assault and Brawl (chara + trophies?) . If then he decided to post only brawl models ..it's a his choice. Btw i may misunderstood his words.

http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_SSBB_trophies_(Star_Fox_series)

The models in this video came from Brawl, period. Star Fox Assault doesn't even have full body models for Leon and Panther. Plus, the person who uploaded that video didn't even rip the models, so they aren't going to be any help.

RE: Star Fox Assault models - Previous - 01-28-2013

Alright you two, calm down! Don't let this discussion escalate into quarrelling~

RE: Star Fox Assault models - RX149Dragonite - 02-03-2013

(01-28-2013, 12:22 PM)Previous Wrote: Alright you two, calm down! Don't let this discussion escalate into quarrelling~

Wasn't planning to escalate it into that, but okay