Pokémon Black & White (be warned: spoilers)

[Helmo]

kracko

and I just want more ghosts~

[Cshad]

Ghost/Normal Pokemon would kick ass

The only Pokemon immune to both it's stabs and immune to weaknesses it would have without the other. Except Dark, which means it would be Pursuit weak >:

EDIT:



Look at this thing
Gorgeous.

[JarJar]

Yeah it def. looks like it(pink fish), rock guy is called Gigaiasu.

Also guys fucking use spoiler tags.

[Gold]

Why not just put "[spoilers]" in the title. I mean it's a thread about an unreleased game that is constantly having new information come out. Anybody who comes to this thread and doesn't expect spoilers is an idiot.

[JarJar]

Done, but keep them in the tags anyway just so we don't shit bricks on the spot, some people can't take that you know.

[DioShiba]

If Luvdisc (otherwise known as the most worthless Pokemon next to Lumineon) is getting an evo Pinsir and Farfetch'd better get one too.

I mean shit, Luvdisc has been begging for an evo, But Pinsir and Farfetch'd have been hoping for one for a lot longer ):

If only the farfetch'd and delibird evo's were real now.

Lets be honest, there are a lot of pokemon that could have an evo, I respect that farfetch'd and probably delibird need one. But pinser isn't really on the top 10 list right now, same with heracross.

I'm still waiting for that Tarous evo that has been discussed about.

[Maxpphire]

Pinsir dosen't need one

Yes he does. Heracross outclasses Pinsir in nearly every way possible, except in their ability. Mold Breaker is fucking wonderful, but the only move Pinsir has to take advantage of it (Earthquake) is something he doesn't even get STAB on. Nearly every other Bug Pokemon not grouped into a Butterfree esque evolutionary line is capable of being useful in a way that makes it stand out from it's counterpart. Pinsir doesn't have that with Heracross, because STAB Close Combat and STAB Megahorn as well as a neutrality to rock attacks make him infinitely more useful than a non STAB Mold Breaker Earthquake.

Even Venemoth (who tears shit up, just like Yanmega) is able to separate itself from him with slightly better typing as well as access to Batton Pass, Toxic Spikes, and Sleep Powder.

I thought Pinsir's counterpart was Syther?

[Sengir]

it was until Scizor

[Rosencrantz]

Don't be surprised if one pokemon gets an evolution and its "counterpart" doesn't get one

remember Dusknoir

[Maxpphire]

Well still, they are only catchable by the same way, sometimes it is a version exclusive (while Pinsir is in the other one) depending on the game. (d/p, r/b, fr/lg) Just because one has an evolution doesn't mean that they still are not counterparts.

Also Heracross is too strong to be a pinsir counterpart.

[Zac]

are you guess forgeting that pinisr lacks heracross's x4 weaknesses? anybody who has used both can tell you that pinsir is just as usefull as heracross. infact I think pinsir is better.

[Cshad]

Pinsir and Heracross make better counterparts, there is a sort of Stag Beetle/Rhinoceros Beetle rivalry in Japan's culture and media. Meaning they would probably evolve together if it were to ever happen.

Oh well, on can always hope. Farfetch'd/Delibird/Sableye/Bannete/something evo please.

Also a 4x flying weakness isn't that big a deal. Heracross has better typing, better STAB moves, Guts, Pursuit, Night Slash and a neutrality to rock/Stealth Rock. Pinsir has gaping holes that I would like to see filled. But I'd rather have the ones mentioned above happen first.

[DioShiba]

I think pinis is better.

zac could you please explain to me what on earth a "pinis" is?

Oh well, on can always hope. Farfetch'd/Delibird/Sableye/Bannete/something evo please.

if any pokemon is deserving of an evo right now it's probably tarous and maybe even something like, I dunno, Swellow or Altaria?

[Maxpphire]

Yes but you can find a Heracross in all the games (that it has been in, obviously not first gen) and thats not how a counterpart is made. (Counterparts tend to be version exclusive pokemon.)

Kinda like how Vulpix and Growlithe are counterparts, so will Scyther and Pinsir. Just because Japan's media says that two different type of beetles have rivalry with eachother, doesn't mean that in pokemon that they will be counterparts with eachother since one already had a counterpart with another pokemon since the beginning of the series.

[Cshad]

Heracross and Pinsir also have near identical stats, and share several moves. They share the same speed stat, attack stat, and base stat total, meaning there defenses are just switched around a bit. Scyther and Pinsir don't share anything in common other than being version exclusives in gen1.

Also, does Tauros really need an evo >:? Maybe a move pool upgrade, likes Swords Dance or something, but his stats are really nice otherwise.

EDIT: Wait, Sycther also has a 500 bst, but Pinsir and Heracross are still way more similar.