Operation Rainfall

[GaryCXJk]

Most of the time they are kinda lousy games right? European fans don't seem to even care. Or do they?

Yeah, pretty much. Or at least in the Netherlands. The only people who seem to care are some of my friends group, and I'm mostly just indifferent about it.

[Azure-Tranquility]

From what i hear, only Xenoblade might be worth a localization. And I agree that the Wii could use more RPGs, because at the moment all I'm seeing is Tales of Symphonia 2 and Gamecube titles.

[Jalopes]

i thought i read somewhere they didn't want to translate the last story because there would be too much to translate

which is the most retarded excuse i've ever heard

I hope they do localize these games eventually though, especially TLS. I've been looking forward to seeing that for a while.

[Azure-Tranquility]

I believe it's not so much the vast amount of content to translate, so much as it is the amount of labor required to translate and the projected sales income not matching up.

Basically to them it might be too much work for too little payoff for a game that may not sell well.

Still, with these games being localized in English for EU, it makes you wonder why they don't just localize for NA as well since it wouldn't require much more work. But hey, Nintendo never seems to think the same way as others.

[Koopaul]

True, they could send us the British version, change the spelling a bit. There you go!

On this 4th of July, "Give me Video Games, or give me death!"

Patrick Henry loved Action-RPGs.

[Azure-Tranquility]

It worked for Dragon Quest 8. I actually liked the british accents. Made it more fresh.

[Garamonde]

I... really love accents...

[Azure-Tranquility]

I... really love accents...

It's okay. A'lot of people do.

[ZaeTelapo!]

I... really love accents...

It's okay. A'lot of people do.

A good blend of it all is excellent though. When not being forced that is.

[Chutzpar]

Would they even have to really change the spelling? It's not like one of you Yanks is gonna go "WHOA THERE'S A U THERE I DO NOT UNDERSTAND". I'm fairly certain I've played games that have used American spellings in the past~

You're really just telling everyone to take a really sad approach and lie down and accept things as they are, and don't even bother trying to accomplish something that will make you personally happy.

you make it sound like something important.

I've never quite understood this sense of entitlement in gamer circles. It sure sucks when there's a game you're excited about and it turns out you can't get it easily, that I understand, but acting like a five year old yelling MUMMY MUMMY BUT I WANT IT WHY CAN'T I HAVE IT is ridiculous. Ultimately a game company has to make money. If they don't think something has a market in a particular country, it is their prerogative to not sell it there, regardless of whether or not you disagree. It's juvenile as fuck to expect a company to risk making a massive loss just to appease some neckbeards.

[Jalopes]

I've never quite understood this sense of entitlement in gamer circles. It sure sucks when there's a game you're excited about and it turns out you can't get it easily, that I understand, but acting like a five year old yelling MUMMY MUMMY BUT I WANT IT WHY CAN'T I HAVE IT is ridiculous. Ultimately a game company has to make money. If they don't think something has a market in a particular country, it is their prerogative to not sell it there, regardless of whether or not you disagree. It's juvenile as fuck to expect a company to risk making a massive loss just to appease some neckbeards.

idk, i certainly didn't get this vibe at all from his post

the whole point of this campaign is to show nintendo or whatever that the game would NOT be a massive loss because however many people who participate will buy it

he's just saying that instead of going "aw shucks, guess we'll never get to play it" fans should take SOME action to see that these games get localized, not just for themselves but for everyone who might be interested. idk what's wrong with that, it's not like they're making death threats, they're just sending letters/messages to nintendo expressing their interest


oh and from what i understand these aren't just random japanese games some people want to play, these are some pretty significant releases; mistwalker is a big name, monolith soft isn't unheard of in the states, and idk about ganbarion but the first two at least are a pretty big deal

i think its absurd to think these games couldn't be successful here; this would be like if square decided not to localize kingdom hearts

[Omegajak]

I've never quite understood this sense of entitlement in gamer circles. It sure sucks when there's a game you're excited about and it turns out you can't get it easily, that I understand, but acting like a five year old yelling MUMMY MUMMY BUT I WANT IT WHY CAN'T I HAVE IT is ridiculous. Ultimately a game company has to make money. If they don't think something has a market in a particular country, it is their prerogative to not sell it there, regardless of whether or not you disagree. It's juvenile as fuck to expect a company to risk making a massive loss just to appease some neckbeards.

idk, i certainly didn't get this vibe at all from his post

the whole point of this campaign is to show nintendo or whatever that the game would NOT be a massive loss because however many people who participate will buy it

he's just saying that instead of going "aw shucks, guess we'll never get to play it" fans should take SOME action to see that these games get localized, not just for themselves but for everyone who might be interested. idk what's wrong with that, it's not like they're making death threats, they're just sending letters/messages to nintendo expressing their interest


oh and from what i understand these aren't just random japanese games some people want to play, these are some pretty significant releases; mistwalker is a big name, monolith soft isn't unheard of in the states, and idk about ganbarion but the first two at least are a pretty big deal

i think its absurd to think these games couldn't be successful here; this would be like if square decided not to localize kingdom hearts

Anyone who posts to counter this point doesn't like videogames.

[GrooveMan.exe]

I've never quite understood this sense of entitlement in gamer circles. It sure sucks when there's a game you're excited about and it turns out you can't get it easily, that I understand, but acting like a five year old yelling MUMMY MUMMY BUT I WANT IT WHY CAN'T I HAVE IT is ridiculous. Ultimately a game company has to make money. If they don't think something has a market in a particular country, it is their prerogative to not sell it there, regardless of whether or not you disagree. It's juvenile as fuck to expect a company to risk making a massive loss just to appease some neckbeards.

idk, i certainly didn't get this vibe at all from his post

the whole point of this campaign is to show nintendo or whatever that the game would NOT be a massive loss because however many people who participate will buy it

he's just saying that instead of going "aw shucks, guess we'll never get to play it" fans should take SOME action to see that these games get localized, not just for themselves but for everyone who might be interested. idk what's wrong with that, it's not like they're making death threats, they're just sending letters/messages to nintendo expressing their interest


oh and from what i understand these aren't just random japanese games some people want to play, these are some pretty significant releases; mistwalker is a big name, monolith soft isn't unheard of in the states, and idk about ganbarion but the first two at least are a pretty big deal

i think its absurd to think these games couldn't be successful here; this would be like if square decided not to localize kingdom hearts

Nnnnope, Kriven's post absolutely reeks of entitlement; mostly because - as I've said and repeated - these three games are not the only games ever to be denied an international release, and as such, a lot of the up-in-arms about this seems to come down to that it's ~~~AMERICA~~~ being denied a game and that's just NOT OKAY GUYS.

To specify/elaborate, Nintendo has decided to not release 1st and 2nd party Wii games in the US before - Another Code R and Disaster Day of Crisis. Furthermore, to flip the situation, there are a shitload of games that were released in the US by a bunch of different companies that don't make it to the UK. Atlus is infamous for this, but if you want a Nintendo-centric example, Wario Ware Twisted is one.

But y'know in those situations, there wasn't a petition made. For the most part, people just dealt with it. It's true that in this age, there is a much bigger role of the end-user in game development and publishing, and that's great, but when there are threads like this that treat a contrary decision as INJUSTICE (because you're not doing what we want), or that NINTENDO IS RUINING GAMING (because you're not doing what we want); then that's entitled bullshit.

[Jalopes]

I've never quite understood this sense of entitlement in gamer circles. It sure sucks when there's a game you're excited about and it turns out you can't get it easily, that I understand, but acting like a five year old yelling MUMMY MUMMY BUT I WANT IT WHY CAN'T I HAVE IT is ridiculous. Ultimately a game company has to make money. If they don't think something has a market in a particular country, it is their prerogative to not sell it there, regardless of whether or not you disagree. It's juvenile as fuck to expect a company to risk making a massive loss just to appease some neckbeards.

idk, i certainly didn't get this vibe at all from his post

the whole point of this campaign is to show nintendo or whatever that the game would NOT be a massive loss because however many people who participate will buy it

he's just saying that instead of going "aw shucks, guess we'll never get to play it" fans should take SOME action to see that these games get localized, not just for themselves but for everyone who might be interested. idk what's wrong with that, it's not like they're making death threats, they're just sending letters/messages to nintendo expressing their interest


oh and from what i understand these aren't just random japanese games some people want to play, these are some pretty significant releases; mistwalker is a big name, monolith soft isn't unheard of in the states, and idk about ganbarion but the first two at least are a pretty big deal

i think its absurd to think these games couldn't be successful here; this would be like if square decided not to localize kingdom hearts

Nnnnope, Kriven's post absolutely reeks of entitlement; mostly because - as I've said and repeated - these three games are not the only games ever to be denied an international release, and as such, a lot of the up-in-arms about this seems to come down to that it's ~~~AMERICA~~~ being denied a game and that's just NOT OKAY GUYS.

To specify/elaborate, Nintendo has decided to not release 1st and 2nd party Wii games in the US before - Another Code R and Disaster Day of Crisis. Furthermore, to flip the situation, there are a shitload of games that were released in the US by a bunch of different companies that don't make it to the UK. Atlus is infamous for this, but if you want a Nintendo-centric example, Wario Ware Twisted is one.

But y'know in those situations, there wasn't a petition made. For the most part, people just dealt with it. It's true that in this age, there is a much bigger role of the end-user in game development and publishing, and that's great, but when there are threads like this that treat a contrary decision as INJUSTICE (because you're not doing what we want), or that NINTENDO IS RUINING GAMING (because you're not doing what we want); then that's entitled bullshit.

This is why I mentioned that these games aren't just random releases, they're highly significant. All of them have been getting great reviews, all of them are by fairly significant names (though as i said idk about ganbarion and pandora's tower, but xenoblade and the last story and definitely big deals), and all of them are very similar to games that have been proven to be marketable in the US (which is why I mentioned Kingdom Hearts). This is less "WAAHH I WANT THESE GAMES" and more "wait why aren't these being released here?" People are mad because from their perspective there's no good reason NOT to release them. Which brings us to this campaign...

The point of the campaign isn't to complain, it's to show Nintendo that their reasons for not localizing these games here are wrong, and that they ARE marketable. Like I said, they're not making death threats or sending hate mail, they're just saying they would like to see these games localized, and check out how many people would buy them.

You're confusing a sense of entitlement with a legitimate request from fans (consider revivals of television shows like Family Guy, which resulted from similar fan interest (and consider how unbelievably popular FG became, showing that sometimes the fans are right)). A sense of entitlement would be "Nintendo's not releasing these? Fuck em, I'm never buying Nintendo games again." Some people might be like this, but the people participating in the campaign are just trying to show that there is enough public interest for these games to justify a release. If it doesn't work, oh well. But at least they fuckin tried.

i've never seen somebody be so cynical about something like this lmao, there is literally nothing wrong with it at all


edit: and now i'm confused having reread the topic; if you don't care that much about the request, then what exactly is wrong with kriven's post? all he's doing is advocating the campaign, not complaining about the games lack of release lmao

[Koopaul]

The difference between Xenoblade and Disaster: Day of Crisis is that people actually care. Most games that don't get released in Europe people don't really care about anyway, so I don't expect them to go to these measures. If important games like Mario Galaxy never came out in Europe, I'd expect a petition! Hell I'd see what I could do to help!