Help save planetary exploration

[Phaze]

we must stimulate GREAT SPACE EXPLORATION!!!!!!!

it is our DUTY as the most advanced species in the GALAXY!

The thought that WE could be that hyper-advanced Type II or even III species that goes around being space-elves is kinda funny.

The thought that we could also go Terran Empire on hypothetical civilizations is also disturbing.

[Mutsukki]

I have to side with what people said on the first page, we are just not ready yet to do this kind of thing. It's not much about people researching different things and more about people finding a way to escape from the nightmare we created here (and by how we're acting, another one will be created on any other planet). There are a lot of terrible implications to this like migration to Mars being a rich-only priviledge and the more people move to there, the more forgotten Earth gets and the people that are here and, well, that could be positive, if our Planet wasn't in such a shitty current state. This is a huge no for me

[puggsoy]

I just think we should try and take care of some of the problems here first: poverty, pollution, natural energy, and so forth. If this stuff, or at least most of it, can be solved then it makes Earth more liveable, and hinders the need for a new planet. What's more, being able to live on Mars is still AGES away, while the problems here can be solved in a much shorter time if money is used towards it and people are determined enough.

Don't get me wrong: I love space exploration. I would personally rather watch a documentary on the solar system's rotation than on poverty and how to prevent it, I admit. But I just think that on the whole, we should take care of one planet before moving on to the next. I'm not saying to abort going to Mars, just delaying it.

And hey, maybe saving more people = more scientists/engineers/etc = getting to Mars faster and more efficiently. Just a thought.

(Note: I have only read the posts in this thread, I haven't watched the video.)

[Gors]

This is what I meant about priorities, back in my post.

Space exploring is great and the challenges of visiting an unknown place do generate useful things, such as Velcro, Teflon and the likes. But as yourself said, I'd rather try making here a better place first than visiting a barren place with absolutely nothing whatsoever.

Not saying that it should stop; I'm fine with people contributing money to it. If it runs in second plan, then it's ok, I guess.

[Gwen]

I think you guys are looking at this the wrong way. Space exploration is hardly for finding a new place to live, it advances our technology immensely, along with learning about other planets and from there using what we learned to help improve our own.

Here's something another poster from another forum had to say when we were landing Curiosity on Mars

"Agreed. I feel like all it boils down to is whether or not Mars itself will produce a pay off. Of course it won't. Mars is nothing but a rock 36 million miles away (at it's closest). Mars isn't the cool part of the mission, it's what needs to be accomplished to get us there. The technology development and the understanding of our universe is the pay off. I love when people say things like "What did we get from going to the moon other than tang and velcro?" .... uhh... how about fucking micro processing chips that completely revolutionized the day to day life of virtually every human being on this planet. "

So IMO, planetary exploration is vital for the advancement of mankind.

[Sengir]

No but it's wise to buy a new car when your family gets too big for it.

Because we are getting too big for Earth...

China has more than twice the population of Europe and the USA combined

India is going to pass them in like 12-13 years


If China's population continues to grow at the rate it has then they would need a second Earth's worth of resources

Then why doesn't Bill Nye try his shtick over there? Why should we pay for it if it's for China and India?

[puggsoy]

So IMO, planetary exploration is vital for the advancement of mankind.

I agree. We've discovered almost everything there is about Earth, and the only way forward is space.

But I think the thing we're talking about is the survival of humans, not the advancement, correct? These are two different things, and if we're talking about survival then space exploration isn't urgent. It's there, and I can see how technological discoveries caused by space exploration can help survival, but it's just not a top priority.

[Gwen]

So IMO, planetary exploration is vital for the advancement of mankind.

I agree. We've discovered almost everything there is about Earth, and the only way forward is space.

But I think the thing we're talking about is the survival of humans, not the advancement, correct? These are two different things, and if we're talking about survival then space exploration isn't urgent. It's there, and I can see how technological discoveries caused by space exploration can help survival, but it's just not a top priority.

It should be though. Because with the advancement of technology, we could probably solve some of our issues on Earth. Also the topic is still Planetary Exploration, it's just been guided by other users to the Survival discussion that has been going on.

[Helmo]

@ Sengir
Have you watched the 2nd Bill Nye video I posted? It explains pretty much exactly what your asking.

here watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbYJfwFg...ure=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...VZmL5UARcs#!

Also you don't seem to get that WE SHARE A PLANET WITH INDIA AND CHINA.
If China and India have a population boom that will effect everyone.
More people will be consuming more food and resources, and soon they're gonna be out. Where do you think they will get them next?

[puggsoy]

Also the topic is still Planetary Exploration, it's just been guided by other users to the Survival discussion that has been going on.

Oh yeah of course. You just seemed to try to be countering my and/or Gors' posts, that's what I meant when I said "the thing we're talking about is the survival of humans". Not the entire thread.

[Koopaul]

Heh this reminds me of that topic on another forum about humans one day becoming space locusts! Over populating the galaxy and consuming all its resources! Mwuhaha!

[Previous]

But I think the thing we're talking about is the survival of humans, not the advancement, correct?

But do either of these actually matter?

[Gors]

Also the topic is still Planetary Exploration, it's just been guided by other users to the Survival discussion that has been going on.

Oh yeah of course. You just seemed to try to be countering my and/or Gors' posts, that's what I meant when I said "the thing we're talking about is the survival of humans". Not the entire thread.

Yes, I agree that the human survival thing was an offshoot of the main topic; still, it's related to it and equally as important.

I do get your concerns and all but it still bugs me to no end that while many of those microprocessing chips are produced people are still dying from starvation and pollution. Maybe you're rght and the knowledge acquired in those space travels will help mankind to advance, but I can't help but be not as excited as you all are.

[puggsoy]

But I think the thing we're talking about is the survival of humans, not the advancement, correct?

But do either of these actually matter?

If neither of those matter then tell me what does

[Gors]

You, Puggsoy.



You.

*cue romantic music*