Calling Bullshit regarding what happened last night

[Alpha Six]

Oh, tyvon left.

And nothing of value was lost.

wow you're actually doing it, it's almost like i didn't even have to do any form of arguing to expose your doing an awful job as a moderator

[TomGuycott]

You're a hate monger.

[DioShiba]

What?
Like, seriously, what?

The wizards must be abundant these days. No really, these things they mention are the same things you do to defend yourself whenever there's a shit fit on here and it's like you can't come up with any other defense other than problems that happened when TSR got it's independent forum

Elaborate on this.

Allow me to post an example about how their sarcasm is literally saying that you were going to complain about shit with certain defenses

tsr is a bad forum *rides motorcycle into the sunset, it explodes and i die, leading my soul to rise to the heavens were i downrep every tsr member and make fun of their sprites*

ANARCHY!!! *OLLY'S INTO THE SUNSET ALONE. MEANWHILE COPS WORLDWIDE SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUST*

As I said repeatedly before, if the only reason you're here is to complain, you shouldn't be here.

That and I swear to god, you bring up the fact that they basically insult pretty much everyone on here, constantly. I can't find the quote on this but you did mention it somewhere.

The sarcasm in that post pretty much points out that you are claiming that these guys are creating a bunch of insults, posting a ton of shit and bringing a ton of negativity on the board. If they didn't bring up something that members did a long ass time ago and stopped doing it when the mods bitched about it then this would be practically irrelevant. But you guys are still complaining about the negativity certain members bring.

Before you actually claim that this is bullshit, let me remind you that you have constantly said that Sam has been constantly making insults, bringing some form of morbidly awful negativity that will ruin the board's image, let alone how they make fun of everyone's sprites like some sort defense when you call us out. Well, show us the proof other wise it's just bullshit. Interpreting what the post actually means helps out and that's what I got out of the sarcasm.

I'm...

confused.

You're telling me that when they come here and shitpost (which is 100% a thing that they do, they even admit it themselves) that I'm...
not allowed to call them out on that because... they know T'll call them out on it?

Is that seriously what you're saying?

No, what I'm saying is that they're pointing out everything you say that the members who got banned did based on similar conflicts.

-Bringing Negativity
-Saying that they're insulting other members (Sans the Negative Reputation thing that DadNier brought up in his sarcasm)
-making fun of everyone's spirtes

Yet you don't back yourself up on when the hell they've been doing this.

You've been doing this throughout the entire time this argument has been going on. Read the PM conversations and half of this thread.

I'm not saying your not allowed to say call them out on it. I'm saying that whenever you get called out for banning members or calling them out on something you bring up those points in specific every time you do take action or say that "this isn't okay" and you don't back up when they have done that. Even though it's a shit post it basically points out what you do whenever you're backed into a corner.

[Alpha Six]

one final message:

shoutouts to tsr moderation team for ignoring the problem i have with them, then letting yet another personal insult against me slide because i'm the bad guy


yes i am the hatemonger indeed

[Shade]

I truly don't understand why there has to be so much drama and stupidity on a forum like this.

Come on guys.

[Gaia]

I'm...

confused.

This whole thing is confusing. I can understand making fun of one's sprites (and refs) is one thing, but this.. IS MADNESS! Sheesh, I have a funny feeling we aren't gonna learn anything from this and make things worse.

[Vipershark]

No, what I'm saying is that they're pointing out everything you say that the members who got banned did based on similar conflicts.

-Bringing Negativity
-Saying that they're insulting other members (Sans the Negative Reputation thing that DadNier brought up in his sarcasm)
-making fun of everyone's spirtes

Yet you don't back yourself up on when the hell they've been doing this.

You've been doing this throughout the entire time this argument has been going on. Read the PM conversations and half of this thread.

I'm not saying your not allowed to say call them out on it. I'm saying that whenever you get called out for banning members or calling them out on something you bring up those points in specific every time you do take action or say that "this isn't okay" and you don't back up when they have done that. Even though it's a shit post it basically points out what you do whenever you're backed into a corner.

So what you're saying is that you want me to point out exactly what it is that they're doing and when it's happened?
Cause I mean, I can just link you to their post histories if you want.
If you want to see when they've done things, it's not like it's hidden away or anything. It's all right there in their profiles.

I seriously don't understand what it is that you're trying to say here.
I'm backed into a corner because I keep using the same argument for what they're doing... when they're doing the exact same things over and over? What other argument am I supposed to use, exactly?

[Kriven]

So what you're saying is that you want me to point out exactly what it is that they're doing and when it's happened?
Cause I mean, I can just link you to their post histories if you want.
If you want to see when they've done things, it's not like it's hidden away or anything. It's all right there in their profiles.

I seriously don't understand what it is that you're trying to say here.
I'm backed into a corner because I keep using the same argument for what they're doing... when they're doing the exact same things over and over? What other argument am I supposed to use, exactly?

Burden of proof is technically on your shoulders since you're the one making the accusations. So it would be... erm.. fashionable to grab at least a couple of concrete instances.

But I get the feeling that even with concrete evidence, Artherb won't relent, so meh.

[Vipershark]

I mean if you really need for me to go through months of posts for this conflict to finally be over then I guess that's just what I have to do but what I'm asking is if that's really even necessary because I don't want to waste the time doing that to get a response of "that doesn't count because" etc etc and just go in circles forever.

We've all witnessed how these things go down and who does what. Is it really so inconceivable that, hey, they're causing actual trouble? I mean really. Every time they come around the forum explodes. How do you post here for years and not see that?

I mean, especially in the case of Kojjiro, the -entire- staff team agreed that banning him was the right thing to do. It's not like I was working alone or just offed him without asking or anything. You'd think that if there was even an ounce of doubt as to me being wrong, there'd be at least one person who didn't support it.
That isn't the case.

[DioShiba]

You know what, whatever. I really don't give a shit at this point.

You can talk about how much of a stubborn jackass I am for sticking to my thoughts, which I still am. I explained myself the best I can, so fuck this if you guys want to be just as stubborn as I am on your part.

Korrijo should have been banned and that's what I'm sticking to with my opinion good night and I hope you don't sleep well.

[megaMasquerain]

Don't like 99% of the regulars on this forum shitpost and make passive-aggressive or sarcastic comments? I think the only person being a decent human being in this thread was CBL. Everyone else was just slinging insults at each other.

I'd like for Kojjiro to come back but there's nothing I can really do about it because this is just the way forums like this have to be run.

[Vipershark]

You know what, whatever. I really don't give a shit at this point.

You can talk about how much of a stubborn jackass I am for sticking to my thoughts, which I still am. I explained myself the best I can, so fuck this if you guys want to be just as stubborn as I am on your part.

I never called you stubborn?
I'm not really sure where you're getting that from.

I'm not even being stubborn here though, like,
I've provided my reasoning multiple times. The only answer that I've gotten in response was "okay but you told a guy not to use emoticons" and apparently the entire issue of there being years of these incidents going on never actually happened.

[Kairos]

reason mrskeleton should've been a mod: i doubt he would've let something go on for five pages with clearing up absolutely nothing

[Vipershark]

What exactly is there to clear up?
I've been completely transparent the entire time.

[PrettyNier]

You do remember that I was in there for a while, right? And that every single day the topic came up about how this place is nothing but total scum and that my brother is actually the devil?
Understandably as far as I'm concerned you can all burn, but I'd bet money that you guys are just giddy as school girls making shit up and giggling about this as we speak, so it evens out I suppose.

you know i have access to that chatlog, right? i'm part of skype krew and am personally capable of posting months of backlogs and i can point every single time tsr is actually mentioned; the fact of the matter is, most discussions do not center around tsr. it comes up, on rare occasion, when relevant, but not often! and when it does, it usually amounts to either a.) a short conversation, b.) a joke.

do you want me to do that?
do you want me to post months worth of backlogs for skypekrew that will personally prove you wrong?

heh, if i even needed to post them to begin with ...

I've been completely transparent the entire time.

you're right - i can see right through you! and your arguments!
because guess what

you still haven't provided anything concrete to support them??? how novel.